FM3 Firmware Version 4.00 beta 5

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befrahe said:
I use the headphone only for level adjustment per ear. But I also used my sound card and the Level Meter in a DAW for this.
The idea of the real setup is, Guitar -> FM3 -> output2 -> Russian BigMuff -> input2 -> output1 -> Input of Orange OR120.
Then i can switch the BigMuff on and off per Scene and i have all of the other beautiful FM3 effects like a huge pedalboard.
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How do you have Output 2 set? Hopefully "Unity Gain" and not "Line Level"?

Best thing you can do is post a preset that shows the behavior.
 
BryantP said:
Stand-in swtiches let you assign the external switches to one of the regular footswitches, so it sounds like you have your stand-ins set to use your FM3 switches 1 and 2.

If this doesn't look like what's happening, you can upload your "System + FC" settings and someone can take a look when they have a chance.
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I checked the stand-in function and you are right, the stand-in sw shared the function with the built-in sw of FM3. To be honest I am still not getting the concept of that page and how to assign the stand-in sw properly. I will read the manual I suppose ;-)

Thanks for your support !
 
Jens973 said:
I checked the stand-in function and you are right, the stand-in sw shared the function with the built-in sw of FM3. To be honest I am still not getting the concept of that page and how to assign the stand-in sw properly. I will read the manual I suppose ;-)

Thanks for your support !
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Stand-in switches are always:
  • external switches
  • which duplicate an existing switch assignment.

Meaning that you can only assign something to a stand-in switch that already has been assigned in a layout.

You can only program stand-in switches on the hardware, not in the editor, I don't know why.

So, suppose you want to assign Bank Up/Down switches to an external dual switch. First you need to assign those functions in a layout. It doesn't really matter if you'll use that layout or not. Next, on the Stand-in page, you assign those assigned layout functions to the external switches. (This is what I do with my FM3, together with OMG9).
 
unix-guy said:
How do you have Output 2 set? Hopefully "Unity Gain" and not "Line Level"?

Best thing you can do is post a preset that shows the behavior.
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Output2 and input2 works perfect and are not the problem. And yes in my tests Unity Gain was set and it is Unity Gain. :)
A test preset is very simple. Only Input1 -> Shunt -> Output1. Problem is you have to measure the output1 level with a Meter tool in a DAW or so and compare it to the input level. In my opinion it is to low and therefore output1 clips to early. Thats the problem.
 
befrahe said:
Output2 and input2 works perfect and are not the problem. And yes in my tests Unity Gain was set and it is Unity Gain. :)
A test preset is very simple. Only Input1 -> Shunt -> Output1. Problem is you have to measure the output1 level with a Meter tool in a DAW or so and compare it to the input level. In my opinion it is to low and therefore output1 clips to early. Thats the problem.
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I guess I'm not understanding something...

If you have Input 1 straight to Output 1 with a guitar plugged in, your output is going to be very low. That is expected because a guitar signal by itself is very quiet.
 
I’m running Out1 stereo to FOH and Out2 to my Friedman Asc12. Out2 set at unity gain was still low volume with the out2 knob maxed and my Friedman just about maxed. I switched OUT2 to line level and now I have all the volume I need with my Friedman only half way up.
Is this normal??
 
Lord ToneKing said:
I’m running Out1 stereo to FOH and Out2 to my Friedman Asc12. Out2 set at unity gain was still low volume with the out2 knob maxed and my Friedman just about maxed. I switched OUT2 to line level and now I have all the volume I need with my Friedman only half way up.
Is this normal??
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Yes... You want Output 2 on Line Level for that scenario.

You can see whether -10dB or +4dB works better for you.
 
Lord ToneKing said:
I’m running Out1 stereo to FOH and Out2 to my Friedman Asc12. Out2 set at unity gain was still low volume with the out2 knob maxed and my Friedman just about maxed. I switched OUT2 to line level and now I have all the volume I need with my Friedman only half way up.
Is this normal??
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Yes, I run my Gemini 2 the same way. Same thing happened to me after the update. Changing to line level got me back to where I was before the update..
 
Have no fear- Captain obvious is here.
It was already like that before but it was changed to compliment the function of the performances pages when they were added.
I don’t see them going back to the old way- because then the PP’s will not be performance oriented anymore.
As the feature set changes with additions- compromises must be made.
 
Well, 17 pages and still I have yet to see a bug where it would scare me to gig this Beta? I have three gigs this weekend and I'm all in! Practiced off and on yesterday for about six hours with no problems. I am using Copy Output 1 to Output 2, Line Level with +4 db and I have tons of volume for my RCF monitor. Thanks to the guys at FAS for this upgrade! Rehearsal on Wednesday will be a blast!
 
Gl4th said:
Not sure I can replicate that on my unit.
I will try.
Can you post a video?
Or can you upload the noise of the unit turning upside down on soundcloud?
:tearsofjoy:
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Sorry - not possible - my camera and mice are mounted on floorboard with FM3 - if i turn it upside-down I'm not able to control anything and video is dark :disappointed:
 
A possible Output2 bug - definitely not a show stopper...

Summary

Output2 preset leveling meter in FM3 Edit is not consistent with the Output2 clipping LED on the FM3.

Description

I always use an Output2 block in my presets to give flexibility for stage monitoring. Output2 is set to line +4db. Output1 set to +4db.

While rebuilding my main presets for Cygnus I noticed that the preset leveling meters are not consistent with the clipping leds on the FM3.

The Output2 preset leveling meter (FM3 edit) showed around 50% volume where Output1 showed just under clipping. Increasing the Output2 level in the preset leveling window to around 70% of Output1 caused the clipping light on the FM3 to come on.

Output2 also shows a lower level on the FM3 meters than Output1 even though Output2 is clipping.

Actual Output2 volume seemed to be consistent with the FM3 clipping LED so plenty of volume at Output2.

System parameters were reset according to the release notes.

I think this is a meter display issue only. Output2 volume is fine.
 
After I loaded the new preview presets, my FM3 locked up when I was scrolling thru the bank of new presets. Also, I didn't see the names of the presets unless I load each preset into FM3 edit. Shouldn't it show the new preset names after you import?
 
After finishing downloading beta 5 I turned off my FM3 (this is after turning it off and back on per screen instructions) and the screen started flashing like a strobe light despite having the power off. I unplugged the USB cable and it stopped. Turn it back on and everything was fine. But it scared the hell out of me. What would have caused this? It never has happened doing upgrades before.
 
chrisjnyc said:
After I loaded the new preview presets, my FM3 locked up when I was scrolling thru the bank of new presets. Also, I didn't see the names of the presets unless I load each preset into FM3 edit. Shouldn't it show the new preset names after you import?
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After i imported each library via fractal bot i refreshed the preset banks once and all the names showed up just fine
 
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