FM3 Firmware Version 4.00 beta 5

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@Petrocelli posted a bug in beta 1, regarding Studio FB / FF 2 compressors. This is the thread:
https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/fm3-firmware-version-4-00-beta-1.173199/post-2096036

I didn't see any reply to this issue, so I wonder if it was a bug, and/or it has been fixed.
No, it‘s not fixed! I opened also a thread in the FM3 bugs tab. @austinbuddy also replied there that he has a problem with the Studio Compressors! (Sorry don‘t know how to link to a different thread)
 
Channels library in action - such a great feature!


Thanks again! Yet another glorious presentation of an excellent (new) tool!

Are we going to be able to exchange scene blocks on axechange? currently only PRESET and CAB files are supported.

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I am currently trying to configure the FM3 as a pedal board. Means output1 level equal to input1 level. But it is not possible without output1 clipping. Maybe it is a 4.00 beta5 issue?
If i connect a input1 block only with a output1 block in my preset, the output1 is clipping with clean guitar signal input. Output1 block level must be set to approx. -13dB so that the output level is equal to the input level but output1 is still clipping if i hard hitting the strings.
Do i something wrong?
Installed Firmware is 4.00 beta5.
Input1 Block level is set to 0dB
Input1 Pad is set to 12dB (hot Humbuckers)
Output Level in I/O Setting ist set to +4dbU.
Hardware Level of output1 is set to 100%
System parameters are reseted after firmware update.
 
I am currently trying to configure the FM3 as a pedal board. Means output1 level equal to input1 level. But it is not possible without output1 clipping. Maybe it is a 4.00 beta5 issue?
If i connect a input1 block only with a output1 block in my preset, the output1 is clipping with clean guitar signal input. Output1 block level must be set to approx. -13dB so that the output level is equal to the input level but output1 is still clipping if i hard hitting the strings.
Do i something wrong?
Installed Firmware is 4.00 beta5.
Input1 Block level is set to 0dB
Input1 Pad is set to 12dB (hot Humbuckers)
Output Level in I/O Setting ist set to +4dbU.
Hardware Level of output1 is set to 100%
System parameters are reseted after firmware update.
I would suggest setting Output 1 level to -10... And turn down Output 1 knob.
 
Strange Sound coming out after half an hour of usage (fan whistling and a strange chirping sound).

Right now I have Beta 5 installed
 
I would suggest setting Output 1 level to -10... And turn down Output 1 knob.
It remains. If I turn the Output 1 knob down and increase the Output 1 block level to achieve unitiy gain, output1 is clipping.
The technical spec says output1 max level +20dBu. I thought this was much more than just guitar signal level.
 
It remains. If I turn the Output 1 knob down and increase the Output 1 block level to achieve unitiy gain, output1 is clipping.
The technical spec says output1 max level +20dBu. I thought this was much more than just guitar signal level.
Output 1 is not designed for Unity Gain. Output 2 is...

You are using this as a pedalboard... A guitar signal through a pedalboard is not very loud.

How are you determining there is clipping?
 
Output 1 is not designed for Unity Gain. Output 2 is...

You are using this as a pedalboard... A guitar signal through a pedalboard is not very loud.

How are you determining there is clipping?
My plan is to use output2 and input2 as an switchable effects loop, so use output2 instead output1 is not a option for this idea. I know it's unconventional but it would work for me.
I used headphones directly on the FM3 and I can hear that it crack when output 1 is clipping. Also the red output 1 clipping led lights up and the output1 block level is in red area on the level meter in output1 block.
 
Tweed Jumpered is a new model added with the Cygnus betas I think. That's driving both channels and can be a mess if you turn the volumes up too high, IMO. Keep them low, I have the Bright Drive at 3 and Normal Drive at 1 and it sounds pretty good for Stones songs with a Tele in Open-G. But running a jumper between the channels is not my favorite way to run a real 5E3 amp.

What you are describing is the nature of a real 5E3 Tweed Deluxe. I never thought the amp was very well modeled in previous FW versions. Sounded more like an idealized version than the real thing. Anyway, the real amps actually have a very narrow range of usability on the volume dial, unless you want that farty/spitty tone. I haven't owned a vintage one for a while, but they all reached full volume and distortion at about 4-5 on the volume knob and from there just got more "spitty" and the low end got more "flabby" as you turned it up.

Try this trick with the Deluxe Tweed model (don't use the Jumpered version). Turn the Normal Drive control all the way up and use the Bright Drive control to set your volume and gain. This gives you a more usable range without the excessive blocking distortion and excessive flabbiness. This volume control interaction was not modeled properly in prior versions (I think it was added with Cygnus, but I could be wrong) and is similar to the way the real amps behave.
Appreciate the reply. I "do" use all the tweeds, all the fenders. I used the tweed jumped as an example because it was the worst offender for me. But since april of 2009 I have used ALL the Fender amps. That was my point. Guess I didn't make that clear enough for some. Never ha this issue before.
I owned quite a few real ones so I know what they do. But from the beginning I had them tamed somewhat, for MY NEEDS. Never had this particular issue with so many of the Fenders until this FW.
Unixguys suggestion about input trim solved much of the issue and I made some other tweaks also after that.
That is similar to what you are saying so I do thank you for the reply-Honest. I will definitely try as you suggest also!

EDIT: I should add I have from the beginning changed some things on every amp (I mean in Fractal) For instance, the Hi Frq resonance used to default t 2.52 way back when. Somewhere along the line it changed to a much higher number. I have "most" of mine set back to 2.52. Just a habit I fell into. It does take that high piercing thing out of my starts, in a nice way. Just an example. Maybe some of these things are the reason some of my tuff changed so dramatically. I am redoing them all
 
Ok I've got something weird going on. Pardon me if its expected behavior or if its not cygnus related. I'm posting here since I've only noticed it since updating but I could be wrong. So I'm currently playing through headphones. Whenever I use the room parameters in the cab block and both the room level and room size are turned past 10 o clock, the note D or sometimes G can only be heard on the right headphone. The left will be either silent or I hear a buzzy crackling noise.

Its most evident if you have dual cabs panned left and right or you use the enhancer block, but it can be heard as well without those. So far i've found only either the D or G notes do this. Both open strings and on the fifth fret. I can play a g note on the fifth fret and hear it only on the right side, and as I bend it will shift over to the left.

If the cabs are centered, or its a single cab, it almost sounds like the note phases in and out. It also seems to be tied to the amp because it happens on the citrus a30 dirty and the JVM OD1 orange but not the jm45 jumped or the spawn nitrous 1 for example.

I suppose it could be guitar related, my other guitar is dissambled rn for pickup swap, will put back together tomorrow and see if it does it as well.
@MFKINPOPEYES Could you upload both the preset and your System+FC settings? Thanks
 
My plan is to use output2 and input2 as an switchable effects loop, so use output2 instead output1 is not a option for this idea. I know it's unconventional but it would work for me.
I used headphones directly on the FM3 and I can hear that it crack when output 1 is clipping. Also the red output 1 clipping led lights up and the output1 block level is in red area on the level meter in output1 block.
If you hear clipping with only Input/Output blocks then I think something else is going on.

If you're using the FM3 with headphones then you aren't really using it as pedalboard, are you?
 
If you hear clipping with only Input/Output blocks then I think something else is going on.

If you're using the FM3 with headphones then you aren't really using it as pedalboard, are you?
I use the headphone only for level adjustment per ear. But I also used my sound card and the Level Meter in a DAW for this.
The idea of the real setup is, Guitar -> FM3 -> output2 -> Russian BigMuff -> input2 -> output1 -> Input of Orange OR120.
Then i can switch the BigMuff on and off per Scene and i have all of the other beautiful FM3 effects like a huge pedalboard.
 
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