Don't sleep on the Celestion FX12-200 if you use IRs for live / rehearsal

I bought the Celestion FX12-200 as an experiment as I was a bit tired of tweaking patches to sound good through a traditional cab with my seymour duncan 170.
I was very impressed with the Celestion and I rarely have to tweak patches - if I want a bit more bottom thump I use the Seymour to tweak a little.
I immediately sold my Engl 2x12 cab
 
I continue to be impressed with it. I will finally have the chance to take it to practice next week and I am super excited to see how it holds up there. I have been cranking it quite loud at home.
 
JiveTurkey said:
I continue to be impressed with it. I will finally have the chance to take it to practice next week and I am super excited to see how it holds up there. I have been cranking it quite loud at home.
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I am with you 100% jive turkey 🦃.
Have you tried changing the speaker low res frequency to 75 in the amp block? Mine seems to really shine at super high volume. I absolutely dig it.
 
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Justincase said:
I am with you 100% jive turkey 🦃.
Have you tried changing the speaker low res frequency to 75 in the amp block? Mine seems to really shine at super high volume. I absolutely dig it.
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I did. The speaker impedance curves are a great tweak as well. Really curious to see how it pans out next week. The last time I had the FM; I wasn't digging it with the F12X at all. This time has been much different.
 
JiveTurkey said:
I did. The speaker impedance curves are a great tweak as well. Really curious to see how it pans out next week. The last time I had the FM; I wasn't digging it with the F12X at all. This time has been much different.
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Yes the impedance curves are great. On the Axefx 3 I'm using the 4x12 pvh 6160 and 4x12 brit greenback. Running two amp/cab blocks in parallel cuz why not. Lol
So ditching the tube amp for solid state did the trick then?
 
Justincase said:
Yes the impedance curves are great. On the Axefx 3 I'm using the 4x12 pvh 6160 and 4x12 brit greenback. Running two amp/cab blocks in parallel cuz why not. Lol
So ditching the tube amp for solid state did the trick then?
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I have a Behringer turd of a power amp. Everything was just really harsh sounding using it with the FM, the last time around. The Pedal Baby is a lot better with it.
 
JiveTurkey said:
I have a Behringer turd of a power amp. Everything was just really harsh sounding using it with the FM, the last time around. The Pedal Baby is a lot better with it.
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My epx4000 Behringer turd sounds great driving two 1x12. What model were you using?
 
Justincase said:
My epx4000 Behringer turd sounds great driving two 1x12. What model were you using?
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It's an older model I picked up for $50 used. Rack mount, weighs 137lbs or somewhere near there. It is "fine" but wasn't a good match for the F12 for whatever reason.
 
JiveTurkey said:
It's an older model I picked up for $50 used. Rack mount, weighs 137lbs or somewhere near there. It is "fine" but wasn't a good match for the F12 for whatever reason.
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Yeah it's really hit and mostly miss with Behringer products. Apparently the EP and EPX amps are the exception. I'm sure if I wouldnt have got one that's more than double the wattage of the F12 it would probably have not worked out. It's really clean running it this way. I just don't crank the amp much past halfway. But like you I got it really cheap.
 
Hey guys, what IRs are you using for these speakers? I am deep down this rabbit hole right now and I'm trying to match up IR that keep the 'speaker' sound, without introducing the 'mic'ed up cab', if you know what I mean. I might be asking for too much understanding how IR's are made...
 
I'm using two amp and two cab blocks in parallel and blending them.
Amp 1 CA3+lead
Cab block 1 = 4x12pvh6160(rw) mixed with 4x12 angle 160 d1 ml

Amp 2 pvh 6160+ lead
Cab block 2 = 4x12 recto 57f
 
Justincase said:
I recommend a class A/b or class H solid state power amp. Google class D vs class A/B and watch paul from PS audio youtube videos. He explains the technology really well. I've gotten great results driving them with a class H with tons of power/headroom. 530watts per channel. That way the amp isn't even close to clipping or distorting. Clean low THD power. I just set my amp gain at 1-2oclock and use the output knob on the axefx to control volume. I'm using a cheap Behringer epx4000 and it sounds so good I cancelled the class A/B crown I had on order that was twice the price. Hope that helps.🤘
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Hey man, can you comment on my thread here? Seems you may be able to help shed light.

https://forum.fractalaudio.com/thre...ass-a-b-ab-pedal-baby-or-d-sd-170-etc.173280/
 
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