Can anyone tell me what the big advantage is in using Cab Lab 4 as opposed to what Cliff has already developed for us AXE FX 3 users with the release of the Dyna Cabs update in the cab block in recent months? I watched Cooper's introduction video and tutorial, and I just can't see what the big advantages are other that it could be used in your stand alone DAW if need be. Other than maybe introducing some more unique cab packs that you have to purchase separately, I feel that the Dyna Cabs we have received already in the recent firmware updates covers most of the desired speakers that most of us would use anyhow, plus, the existing Dyna Cab interface in the speaker block does a good job of mixing them. With all of the variables in the AXE FX 3 we have now, I personally feel that adding the Cab Lab 4 software is just another headache to deal with. I say this due to what I have read today on the different Cab Lab 4 posts in the forum.
Don't get me wrong, I always want the latest and greatest firmware updates that Fractal has to offer. I just didn't hear any major improvement in Cooper's demonstration to warrant installing additional software and then purchasing extra cab packs.
If I am missing something, please let me know...
see hereCan anyone tell me what the big advantage is in using Cab Lab 4 as opposed to what Cliff has already developed for us AXE FX 3 users with the release of the Dyna Cabs update in the cab block in recent months? I watched Cooper's introduction video and tutorial, and I just can't see what the big advantages are other that it could be used in your stand alone DAW if need be. Other than maybe introducing some more unique cab packs that you have to purchase separately, I feel that the Dyna Cabs we have received already in the recent firmware updates covers most of the desired speakers that most of us would use anyhow, plus, the existing Dyna Cab interface in the speaker block does a good job of mixing them. With all of the variables in the AXE FX 3 we have now, I personally feel that adding the Cab Lab 4 software is just another headache to deal with. I say this due to what I have read today on the different Cab Lab 4 posts in the forum.
Don't get me wrong, I always want the latest and greatest firmware updates that Fractal has to offer. I just didn't hear any major improvement in Cooper's demonstration to warrant installing additional software and then purchasing extra cab packs.
If I am missing something, please let me know...
Can anyone tell me what the big advantage is in using Cab Lab 4 as opposed to what Cliff has already developed for us AXE FX 3 users with the release of the Dyna Cabs update in the cab block in recent months? I watched Cooper's introduction video and tutorial, and I just can't see what the big advantages are other that it could be used in your stand alone DAW if need be. Other than maybe introducing some more unique cab packs that you have to purchase separately, I feel that the Dyna Cabs we have received already in the recent firmware updates covers most of the desired speakers that most of us would use anyhow, plus, the existing Dyna Cab interface in the speaker block does a good job of mixing them. With all of the variables in the AXE FX 3 we have now, I personally feel that adding the Cab Lab 4 software is just another headache to deal with. I say this due to what I have read today on the different Cab Lab 4 posts in the forum.
Don't get me wrong, I always want the latest and greatest firmware updates that Fractal has to offer. I just didn't hear any major improvement in Cooper's demonstration to warrant installing additional software and then purchasing extra cab packs.
If I am missing something, please let me know...
TBH, if the DynaCab options were available in AxeEdit, or even better, on-unit, that'd be great. But having to "premix" in another program takes a lot of the fun out of the process.
AE integration is an interesting idea.TBH, if the DynaCab options were available in AxeEdit, or even better, on-unit, that'd be great. But having to "premix" in another program takes a lot of the fun out of the process.
Thanks, I appreciate you guy's comments on the Cab Lab 4 positioning.I second @skolacki's points, but especially to underline the point about mic positioning, that aspect is huge to me. Compared to what is available in the Axe-FX III, a single mic has many more positions available, and the parts of the speaker now accessible make the range of tones far greater. You can move all around the speaker, up down, side to side, all points between, at every distance. Speakers really do sound significantly different at different placements radiating from the center cone, even at the same distance. I think it's hard to appreciate just how much you're missing until you move the mic around yourself.
Now if you're getting everything you need from the DynaCabs included in the Axe-FX III, then of course there's no need at all to try the ones in Cab Lab 4. This is really just about providing even more options. I really believe one position cannot accommodate different guitars optimally. I think the unique output of your guitar with your playing will have an optimal mic positioning that is likely not going to be the same as what's optimal for another guitar, so having that many more positions available makes all the difference in the world. My two cents.
The difference is reflections. Different positions around the speaker means different distances to the floor or walls. And that means different phase cancelations at different frequencies.Thanks, I appreciate you guy's comments on the Cab Lab 4 positioning.
I guess I can't fathom how the radiated sound from a particular round guitar speaker would be different than any particular position on the top quarter section of the speaker like Cliff's Dyna Cab block allows, versus being able to position a mic in the southern hemisphere of the speaker in the same position only 180 degrees apart. I would think the distance from the center of the cone and the distance away from the cone would sound the same anywhere in the 360 degree circle of the speaker as long as the two parameters I just mentioned were the same in distance.
If that is not the case I would be interested in the technical theory of how the extended placement of the mic in the lower half of the speaker would sound different than the same placement in the top portion of the speaker, as an example.
Thanks, I appreciate you guy's comments on the Cab Lab 4 positioning.
I guess I can't fathom how the radiated sound from a particular round guitar speaker would be different than any particular position on the top quarter section of the speaker like Cliff's Dyna Cab block allows, versus being able to position a mic in the southern hemisphere of the speaker in the same position only 180 degrees apart. I would think the distance from the center of the cone and the distance away from the cone would sound the same anywhere in the 360 degree circle of the speaker as long as the two parameters I just mentioned were the same in distance.
If that is not the case I would be interested in the technical theory of how the extended placement of the mic in the lower half of the speaker would sound different than the same placement in the top portion of the speaker, as an example.
We don't have an m160....I need an M160 mic in the packs please!
Thanks, I appreciate you guy's comments on the Cab Lab 4 positioning.
I guess I can't fathom how the radiated sound from a particular round guitar speaker would be different than any particular position on the top quarter section of the speaker like Cliff's Dyna Cab block allows, versus being able to position a mic in the southern hemisphere of the speaker in the same position only 180 degrees apart. I would think the distance from the center of the cone and the distance away from the cone would sound the same anywhere in the 360 degree circle of the speaker as long as the two parameters I just mentioned were the same in distance.
If that is not the case I would be interested in the technical theory of how the extended placement of the mic in the lower half of the speaker would sound different than the same placement in the top portion of the speaker, as an example.
Using Cab-Lab with SW Live Mode is very much like using DynaCabs on the hardware. You mix it live just like the Cab block.TBH, if the DynaCab options were available in AxeEdit, or even better, on-unit, that'd be great. But having to "premix" in another program takes a lot of the fun out of the process.
Good to know, thanks.Using Cab-Lab with SW Live Mode is very much like using DynaCabs on the hardware. You mix it live just like the Cab block.
Your experience would be very similar (only more flexible) in Cab-Lab as it would in Axe-Edit.