Axe-Fx III vs AX8 - simple test

[Marco Fanton]

I am trying to replicate my patch "MF Sleeping Dog" for AXE FX III on AX8 At the beginning, with FW 1.0, AXE FX III sounds pretty similar to AX8 Now the difference is very big! First take AX8, Second take AXE FX III (FW 11.01) Same settings, same IR, same reverb

 

[chucma]

Wow, the AX8 still sounds good but when you compare it side-by-side the difference is definitely noticeable! I thought this was going to be one of those things where you don't hear the difference unless you had decent speakers but that is not the case.

 

[nicolasrivera]

Seems like you need to cut the fizz down in the AX8 clip.

 

[FractalAudio]

Was that recorded with a phone? I can hear an AGC pumping, particularly on the second clip.

 

[Marco Fanton]

Was that recorded with a phone? I can hear an AGC pumping, particularly on the second clip.

With logic X and apogee elements 46
You are right there is an automatic limiter in the master.

 

[Marco Fanton]

Seems like you need to cut the fizz down in the AX8 clip.

Yes but the let the settings equal just to evaluate the difference.
my sound is the AXE

 

[FractalAudio]

With logic X and apogee elements 46
You are right there is an automatic limiter in the master.

The increased dynamics of the III are triggering the limiter. I would remove that limiter or increase the threshold.

 

[Marco Fanton]

The increased dynamics of the III are triggering the limiter. I would remove that limiter or increase the threshold.

now the sample is correct, thank you

 

[darrenw5094]

I am a lll owner, but preferred the AX8 there...

 

[shatteredsquare]

AX8 just needs more filtering in the amp block, filter the preamp down before PA and they'd be indistinguishable

 

[Merlin]

Yes but the let the settings equal just to evaluate the difference.
my sound is the AXE

The question that is interesting is whether you can make the AX8 sound like the 3 and vice versa with tweaking

 

[Marco Fanton]

Now I can’t reach the same result.
AXE FX III is more natural and realistic under my finger.
Of course we speak about details! During live session it is only my perception.
As you can see some people prefer AX8
As usual it is matter of personal taste

 

[darrenw5094]

Well, I prefer the AX8 sound wise, but the feel could be better in the lll

 

[Melten]

Not that it really matters, but I'd be curious to hear the comparison after your fix. Is that possible?

 

[Marco Fanton]

Not that it really matters, but I'd be curious to hear the comparison after your fix. Is that possible?

Already updated

 

[Doctor Wu]

These are two separate individual takes, yes? Would be better if you ran the same take through both machines.

 

[Tommy Tempest]

It is definitely a matter of taste. I prefer the III. The 8 to me sounds scooped and unnatural and the III sounds more balanced tone of lows, mids and highs through my monitors. Maybe scoop the mids on the III?

 

[dpeterson]

the 8 sounds too thin and buzzy. III is much creamier.

 

[thud_peterson]

I think you could easily replicate the AX8 with III (11.01) if you wanted to. EQ and limiting could get you to that sound fairly easily. The III sounds more like a real amp rather than a recorded, final printed version. The AxeFx III is also the first modeler that can get the clean and light distortion dynamics correct in my opinion.

With older modelers I tended to play to suit the sound of the modeler. Now I play into the AxeFx III like I would direct into an amp. I assume it's because it's more dynamic than previous modelers or maybe I'm just tripping on placebos.

 

[Doctor Wu]

I definitely prefer the 3, but the second take is better per se for me, so I'd like to hear that one through both machines if possible please Marco.