Axe-Fx III Firmware 27.02 Release

[Brewce]

I just follow prompts

The last time I updated (FM9), instructions said to first update the device, only then the editor... Seems you did it the other way around, although I wouldn't think it makes a difference. OTOH, there is more logic to it, IMO.

 

[Dave Merrill]

The last time I updated (FM9), instructions said to first update the device, only then the editor... Seems you did it the other way around, although I wouldn't think it makes a difference. OTOH, there is more logic to it, IMO.

I was prompted to update the editor, did that, then the firmware. No drama, it just worked.

 

[paulmapp8306]

You might want to do a full reset of your Axe, install 27.02, and check things out with just the factory presets. If that seems ok, then reload your backup, or even more conservatively, load presets from there one at a time.

I dont have a backup lol.... I really should but I only ever use 1 preset.

Anyway - Its NOT Axe-Edit. I installed edit 14.3 then updated AFX to 27.02 - same thing reading the blocks (oir not) and blank amps. Yes it wont show new things but should work with the old.

FW27.02 while working fine on the unit - isnt playing with axe-Edit for me. no idea why.... Its not reading some blocks for one, and has those empty amp fields (and resets all amps to bassman 59 bright).

Its not the install as such, as Ive re-downloaded and reinstalled several times - and its obviously not common. Ill have to backup my patch (well 2 - one synth ans one guitar) - do a rest (not sure how either lol) and try again.

 

[VESmedic]

BRUH. This rules. Any chance you could post the preset? Big Meshuggah fan here. What guitar/pickups are you using?

I didn’t save it, but it is quite basic believe it or not, I’ll pull it up and save it. Literally had the gain at about 9 o’clock (2.76 I believe is the numberical on the gain pot) bass about 10-11 o’clock, mids at noon or a hair under, and treble about 5.28 I think was the value, so just over noon. Presence was about 11 o’clock I think, and the depth was raised ever so slightly just to fill out the lowmidrange in the smallest way.

The pedal was setup pretty basic: treble on 10, level on 10, bass down almost to zero, but not quite. this, just like the real pedal, is where the magic is. Going not quite to zero but around .26, .30 etc is where you wanna be with this thing more often than not. The dirty tree I run the bass all the way down but the TC is alittle different eq curve.

The IR is the most important part as we all know. That record was done with GT75s, and I believe just an sm57, but I could be wrong. So, I used otto audios “waryall” cab which is a 1960A cab with GT75s. I used the sm57/neumann 269 blend. If you are a Meshuggah nut, you’ll know they love the Neumann TLM 102 (or 103??) however the vibe is totally there.

Post EQ was some minor small cuts around 1k ( there is ALOT of 1k and low midrange around 300hz removed for the FBM sound, an absolute ton). Just to remove the honk on the palm mutes. A slight wide boost around 2.5-3k ( ALOT of this area in that tone as well, basically the opposite of all the crap out today). The guitar is pretty mid heavy. PRS custom 24 with a BKP holy diver in the bridge. Ironically I just got a lundgren m7 installed in one of my 7s, but it’s not here at the moment. That’s it in a nutshell, very basic.

 

[Budda]

Very strange (in a good way) indeed, what amp is that? Very thick and ringing. Can you upload this preset to take a look.

Band commander im pretty sure. Its my fw test preset then i added the mtd, the settings for the clip arent saved.

Iirc: strat with pure vintage 59s - in-fuzzface gain and tone at noon-band commander- YA MV30 IR-MTD-out. I used pos3 and pos5 on the strat, bouncing around them.

The thing I found to get the weird out was increasing ring mod mix to at least 30%. Cant remember which of the two, but play with lfo speed in filter and lfo blocks and see what sounds best to you.

Definitely fun to be had!

 

[unix-guy]

just weird.

Ever time I go to 27.02, axe edit screw sup. Every time I went back to 27.1 that one patch was blank. Maybe a corrupt patch

So - re-did it (quick) and saved a copy in a different location. When I update then re-role - if Im on the original patch - its blank. If im on the duplicate - both patches remain.....

Last time I went to 27.02 the amp block read "rat"... and the type drop down was the drive pedal selection. The last twice I went back to 27.01 I got "error reading block" messages too.

Odd. 27.02 isnt working for me. Obviously I can use 27.1 with the new axe edit now - and I have the previous version which I ll run (thats for the link). Hopefully when the next FW comes out with another axe-edit version it wioll correct itself.

Ise used Axe-FXs since my standard back in 2008 and NEVER had a single issue on FW updates. Ive sent an EMail to support too. could be it corrupted that preset (or even the slot). That possible.

If you saved that preset under 27.02 it will be "empty" in all older firmware versions.

 

[unix-guy]

I dont have a backup lol.... I really should but I only ever use 1 preset.

All the more reason to have a backup...

Also, backup system settings.

Anyway - Its NOT Axe-Edit. I installed edit 14.3 then updated AFX to 27.02 - same thing reading the blocks (oir not) and blank amps. Yes it wont show new things but should work with the old.

14.3? Do you mean 1.14.03? You should be using 1.14.04.

 

[paulmapp8306]

If you saved that preset under 27.02 it will be "empty" in all older firmware versions.

yeh, I realised that.

Anyway - backup, factory reset, update, reload seems to have sorted it.
I didnt bother reliading the factory sounds as Ive never used them except occasionally out of curiosity. So I just loaded my meagre 3 (main, backup and recording that has cabs on and fewer FX).

I did reload some synth patches, and I do now have space for one patch per synth patch for hte one that has no bult in FX - so Its probably better use of the patches anyway.

 

[Mj87]

Intergal preamp is a great addition to the toolkit, so handy for high gain tones, and cleans!

 

[Ingo]

Exposed “Algorithm” type in Multitap Delay block. This allows changing the underlying algorithm without changing the various parameters. This can be used to experiment with different algorithms without losing parameter settings as occurs when changing the Type.

 

[Ingo]

Loving the "Exposed Algorithm" feature in MTD block (Reverb and Plex blocks would be great with this also).

 

[scottp]

Thank you FAS!!

 

[RDeraz]

Just wanted to chime in on the Integral Pre. Never heard of it, not sure how it works, but it is glorious. I'm using it in front of clean sounds, and it adds that certain something. Slight break up, bass=3, treble=4.2 level=5 makes the notes pop. May replace the FET boost I've been using. TY FAS.

 

[Chewie5150]

I have only heard of the TC Integrated Preamp as used mainly for high gain /low tuned tight aggressive tones and get its a boost that can be used with anything but is it better than other drives for use with say EOB type or even tightening up an angry Plexi? I get its just another tool...another flavor. Im just wondering if the Integ pre drive's strength is more for the aforementioned applications vs also being equally effective for lower gain applications in favor of other drives?

 

[RDeraz]

I have only heard of the TC Integrated Preamp as used mainly for high gain /low tuned tight aggressive tones and get its a boost that can be used with anything but is it better than other drives for use with say EOB type or even tightening up an angry Plexi? I get its just another tool...another flavor. Im just wondering if the Integ pre drive's strength is more for the aforementioned applications vs also being equally effective for lower gain applications in favor of other drives?

I have no idea what it was meant for, but I like it.

 

[eddyrox]

https://www.fractalaudio.com/downloads/firmware-presets/axe-fx-3/27p0/axefxiii_dsp_rel_27p02.zip

Axe-Fx III Firmware Release Notes​

27.02

Added Integral Pre type to Drive block. This is based on a TC Electronics Integrated Preamp.

Improved Filter block Touch-Wah detector behavior.

Improved Sweep Delay algorithm in Delay block. Added selectable filter type.

Improved Quad Diffusor algorithm in Multitap Delay block. New algorithm now has stereo output with adjustable spread and LFO controlled filters.

Exposed “Algorithm” type in Multitap Delay block. This allows changing the underlying algorithm without changing the various parameters. This can be used to experiment with different algorithms without losing parameter settings as occurs when changing the Type.

Fixed MIDI Clock not changing when switching to a new preset and Tempo To Use is set to “Preset”.

Fixed Controllers may stop working if unit is left on for more than a few days.

thank you FAS Team!!

 

[Shask]

I have no idea what it was meant for, but I like it.

It was basically just a 2 band EQ with a ton of volume available. Turning the bass way down, like -15db, and boost up to +30db or something, is how it got famous as a metal boost.

 

[Chewie5150]

So other than the basic EQ it seems its unique feature in the real world was the amount of volume boost due to its higher power supply. Im just curious how that translates in the Axe FX more than other Boosts we have. I have no experience with the actual preamp just genuinely curious. I'll give it a go on some of my presets later

 

[yek]

Compare the model to a plain Volume block with Level turned up, engage Cut in the Amp block, and explain to me what’s different.

 

[VESmedic]

So other than the basic EQ it seems its unique feature in the real world was the amount of volume boost due to its higher power supply. Im just curious how that translates in the Axe FX more than other Boosts we have. I have no experience with the actual preamp just genuinely curious. I'll give it a go on some of my presets later

It has a unique eq curve, Atleast compared to anything else at that time. Lots of boost yes, but nowadays was makes it special is it’s eq curve. Amps with a metric shit ton of low end before the power amp like the recto for instance, really benefit from the big low mid and low end cut you can do with it before the amps input. This is honestly exactly what the mark series amps do, although I feel a recto with a TC style boost does this type of thing much, much better. Much less compressed and nasally to me. The recto with a TC does everything the mark series amps do but better to me personally. The tc preamp also doesn’t have the big mid bump of something like a tubescreamer, or even an sd-1, it’s just a different sound.


And again, I’ve stated this for some time now, but I can get almost the exact same tone as my dirty tree ( which is a tc style boost) by putting a parametric block in front of the amp, and using a low shelf at 500hz and dipping to taste: usually around -8 -12 db, depending on the guitar, amp, and tuning. Then boosting the level for the desired amount of clean boost. This is what I have been doing in front of my recto presets for years, and it’s pretty dead on.