Joegold,
we´re certainly clear in seperated topics, but my intention was to compare the newer with the old version, having some experienced users from the beginnings with the ULTRA and that earlier active wedges bundle from G66.
What ´d you say about the linear argument announced in both versions?
What do you dial into the new ones here eq wise. I have to take out definetely more low´s, its more around -8 to-10 with the lowest band 64Hz, then something around -5 on 125Hz , not so much trouble with the upper range, according to colleage´s oppinions as well. The point is both monitors react the same, I would not think of an error building wise.
Thanks for everybody dialing in
Thank you
Best
Tim
Well if you don't want to take my advice about moving your discussion to another thread, my next request is that you at the very least put a qualifier in your posts here that you are not talking about the CLRs.
As far as Atomic's claims about the earlier products are concerned, no offence to Tom King who in my experience is a prince of a man, but those claims were highly overstated in my opinion.
But then again I never actually owned or tried any of those products.
But, tube amps in general are not ideal for FRFR amplification of a guitar rig especially when it's only 50 watts RMS unless you always play exceptionally quiet.
You CAN get a lot of volume out of a 50 watt tube amp but it will go beyond the amp's ability to not distort the signal.
As to how flat or not or what the dispersion characteristics of the earlier Atomic FRFR monitors are concerned I couldn't say, but my guess is that they're not all that flat and don't have particularly good dispersion characteristics.
My sense was always that they were just closed back cabs with a woofer and a tweeter thrown in so that the Axe's Cab Blocks and IRs could be used more effectively.
The CLR is a totally different animal.
It was designed by a highly respected innovator in the world of hi-end audio speaker design who also happens to be a guitar player and Axe-FX enthusiast, Jay Mitchell.
He's designed something specifically to address the problems that most other so-called FRFR monitor systems only claim to address.
The CLRs aren't perfect, but he's done a remarkably good job and there doesn't appear to be anything else on the market currently anywhere near this price point that is any better.
If you continue to use the earlier powered Atomic FRFR products you're going to have to take all of this into account.
Try playing some pre-recorded CDs through your Atomic Wedges and A/B that with a pair of good studio monitors.
[It will be best also if you can try to do this in a room that is well-treated for accurate audio reproduction.
If you do it in a poorly treated room you'll still gain some insights but they might not be the correct ones.]
You're probably going to notice a world of difference.
If you can find a way to EQ the signal going to the Atomics so that they sound more like the studio monitors then you should use similar EQ settings somewhere in your Axe/Atomic rig.
