Ask your doc about your testosterone levels!

IMO we are designed to lose testosterone over time; as you get older your body will NOT react well to 20's level Testosterone. Activity helps with keeping things level, but replacement therapy is generally for people who have deficit levels that are actually longevity threatening or a result of something like recovery from chemo or other diseases that affect bone and muscle loss.

Don't chase the 'fountain of youth' stuff...you are just not going to feel like you're 22 at 52. The best thing you can do is get a trainer, or if you have the fortitude, work out on schedule, eat right, cut down on the sauce, and SLEEP. This whole 'low T' shit is marketing for men's clinic's these days...the stats do not support that this is widespread, or more to the point that it is ONE thing that indicates it. Your doctor can assess the myriad number of things that diagnose it.

Doesn't hurt I suppose to ask your doctor, but I can almost see them internally rolling their eyes.

As it has been said, there are very many other things you should worry about as you get older.

Like playing your guitar.
 
I believe that a change in life can greatly improve testosterone levels.

1. Take a balanced diet, 2. Try to sleep well 3. Do strength training and cardiovascular exercise will help you a lot.

4.Alcohol and testosterone are not very friendly (drinking too much alcohol is going to kill your testorone)

5. A sedentary lifestyle, spending a lot of time sitting every day without doing any type of physical activity that kills

6.and finally try to be happy


But there are always exceptions in life, if none of that works and you have really tried in every way and have investigated or tried to find the root cause of that testosterone low with medical specialists and there no way to raise it.

Very low testosterone values can compromising your health or your happiness.

Very low testosterone levels is a BIG PROBLEM !!!!!!!!

between the symptoms:

*eternal tiredness,
*depression,
*bone loss,
*sleep problems, such as insomnia and a lot more.......

In that case, I would understand that you could be a TRT candidate.

Anyway, I understand that it is a decision that must be taken with great care( i dont think TRT is a Bad or Good Thing)
this type of substance, let's say derived from testosterone, is used in many practices that have saved people's lives.
How there are people and professionals who do bad practices.

important note:

If you start a treatment with TRT in most cases you will have to depend your whole life on it and if you stop using them your testosterone levels will be that of a 5 year old girl.
 
Just to add the other good advice here - as someone who has talked to doctors about this (very good ones).

There seems to be a lot of 'celebrity' advice on TRT, it seems to me that most are chasing the fountain of youth thing, trying to keep building massive amounts of muscle, or (and this can't be overlooked) - have abused steroids in their past and a lot of those severely depress your testosterone levels.

That's the thing, your body works pretty well on it's own - once you start 'supplementing' it, it tends to shut down and think you've got it covered.

Many men seem to have the mind set 'women get HRT, this is the male version' - it's just not, quite different.

As others have said, sure if you need it - get TRT, but get a good doctor who specialises - not (this doesn't apply in my country but might in others) a clinic that is biased in favour of getting you on TRT.

And don't discount other causes, I had all the symptoms - turns out, my vitamin D was through the floor, result of coming up of 2 years of lockdown or lockdown-lite here in the UK. Simple high dose vitamin D and I'm sorted!
 
I think a lot of you are short sighted and villainize replacement therapy. The media has painted such a bad picture of steroids and everybody lumps hormone replacement therapy as the same thing. Just like saturated fat and cholesterol were bad, but now a good portion of the health community thinks otherwise. I'm sure a good amount of you responding don't work out that much, have diets full of processed crap, vegetable oils, refined sugars and you drink alcohol.....but testosterone replacement therapy is the devil? I bet a few of you responding or reading are maybe on statins because that is what EVERY doc prescribes without a blink. Ridiculous.

My whole point is get tested, talk to doc about options, if any. I have been in the fitness industry for over 30 years and I have seen the results guys have when they are below normal and just put into normal range. Nothing more.
 
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I think a lot of you are short sighted and villainize replacement therapy. The media has painted such a bad picture of steroids and everybody lumps hormone replacement therapy as the same thing. Just like saturated fat and cholesterol were bad, but now a good portion of the health community thinks otherwise. I'm sure a good amount of you responding don't work out that much, have diets full of processed crap, vegetable oils, refined sugars and you drink alcohol.....but testosterone replacement therapy is the devil? I bet a few of you responding or reading are maybe on statins because that is what EVERY doc prescribes without a blink. Ridiculous.

My whole point is get test, talk to doc about options, of any. I have been in the fitness industry for over 30 years and I have seen the results guys have when they are below normal and just put into normal range. Nothing more.
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One of the BEST replies given. The choice to engage in testosterone therapy is a personal, medical choice, that is no one's business (just like the jab IMHO). As you mentioned, this topic has, on may occasions, been stigmatized and, more importantly, linked to prostate cancer. Correlation is NOT causation. I've noticed my own energy levels severely (negatively) impacted to the point I was needing afternoon naps. Upfront disclaimer: "I've worked out vigorously and eat a healthy diet - have done so most of my adult life. So the whole "diet and exercise" to boost levels back to normal is nonsense.

I could no longer deal with the chronic tiredness so I went to an endocrinologist and a Urologist. After several test results came back pointing to severely low levels of testosterone, they put me on a testosterone, daily topical. It took only a few days for me to notice the difference. Initially my T-level was <100 (it should be at least 264). That explained the lethargy. Now my level, and I just got my lab results back yesterday, is 601 (mid point is 590 so I'm exactly where I should be at this point in time). My free PSA is the lowest set, 5% - meaning I have a 95% chance of NOT contracting prostate cancer.

This isn't something you set and forget, I'm monitored for these levels quarterly to ensure they are within the normal operating range.

To the OP, @Tremonti dismiss medical advice in this thread which states "I know a guy, who knows a guy, who..." get the proper medical evaluation, talk with your doctor (endocrinologist/urologist) about associated risks (and there are risks). If you decide to go this path, make certain you perform quarterly blood work to ensure you are on track.

FWIW, I've been on this stuff since 2009, tested quarterly, and reported no issues other than energy levels are back to normal (and so is my sleep cycle).
 
I don't think any of us who are critical of the "every aging guy can use it" mentality are against use by guys that are truly low for their age. At least I'm not. I'm just against the "go against nature" and be younger longer via chemicals mindset.
 
jakel said:
I don't think any of us who are critical of the "every aging guy can use it" mentality are against use by guys that are truly low for their age. At least I'm not. I'm just against the "go against nature" and be younger longer via chemicals mindset.
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It is a choice. You weigh options of pros and cons. Under medical supervision, it can be life changing. Worth looking into. We spend countless hours looking up Axe Fx III tweaks and none about our body's declining hormone levels, why that is, and what replacement may do and the such. I do commercial insurance.....so not selling anything here! Get tested and ask questions!
 
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I don't think any of us who are critical of the "every aging guy can use it" mentality are against use by guys that are truly low for their age. At least I'm not. I'm just against the "go against nature" and be younger longer via chemicals mindset.
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Yup. It is no news to anyone that we live in a superficial and shallow culture in many, many ways. The pressure to
be shallow and superficial is very real, too. That pressure is probably more or less intense depending on one's career,
location, and surrounding friends and family and their perspectives.

For Pete's sake, we live in a culture where people inject a known (although "safe") neurotoxin into their faces, and
teen girls harbor all kinds of harrowing thoughts relative to their body-image because of how shallow and superficial
this "toxic" image conscious culture is.

Not that there is anything wrong with that. ;)
 
I would recommend Chikung and Breathing Meditation for any physical or mental affliction, since they can naturally restore the energy balance in the body.

Chikung, also spelled Chi Kung, Quigong or Qui gong (氣功) has a wide range of techniques and applications, from general well-being and increased energy and stamina to bone marrow cleansing, stress and anxiety, testosterone levels, and several chronic diseases.

But you shall start practicing now and with diligence, don't wait until things go too bad.

Western Big Pharma Co. is not happy with it, but there is a large number of peer-reviewed medical studies stating the benefits. e.g.: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3085832/
https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/islis/14/1/14_KJ00001512427/_article
 
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Definitely interested in my options here.

I’ve been on the low range (~250) my whole life, even with weight lifting, good diet, and plenty of rest. I have a history of depression, along with many others in my family.

It feels like it’s still in normal range but suboptimal. Any tips on natural ways to raise T? Or has someone been on the same boat?
 
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Definitely interested in my options here.

I’ve been on the low range (~250) my whole life, even with weight lifting, good diet, and plenty of rest. I have a history of depression, along with many others in my family.

It feels like it’s still in normal range but suboptimal. Any tips on natural ways to raise T? Or has someone been on the same boat?
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Talk to your doctor. Depression may be resolved or lessened with proper TRT dosing.
 
My naturopath tested my levels a few months ago and they were a bit low. Nothing dangerous, but low enough that she put me on a natural dietary supplement in a very low dose. I went back after 3 months and it hadn't improved much, so she upped the dose, and I told her that my acupuncturist and herbalist had some herbal formulas, but wanted my specific numbers, and I wanted to clear that potential treatment with my doctor as well. She agreed that I should try his treatment as well. Both wanted to approach this cautiously, as they are both aware of the potential downside of raising it too high.

I go back in November to get the numbers checked again and see if this has helped. I can say that it has been easier for me to remain consistency in my workouts since I upped the dose of the doctors supplement and added in a bit of herbal supplementation. Whether that is just a coincidence based on ramping up my workouts slowly over the past year or two or if the treatment is helping remains to be seen.

I'd rather not get into the specifics of what they have me taking, as I take the potential dangers seriously, but I would encourage people to check into natural methods before resorting to testosterone therapy. I don't see myself going that route even if my test results don't show significant improvement. I know that I am feeling better and have more energy in my workouts, so I'll just keep doing what I do in any case.
 
I got tested 2 years ago for something else but it included a T level test once a month over 3 months.

At 45 years old, I tested with levels of a 20 year old, consistently.

I Attribute that to living a clean, healthy lifestyle with routine and schedule, no stress, no drama, daily exerting exercise, and good uninterrupted sleep.
 
I am really surprised there aren't more that use TRT on here. If going natural herb route and other methods is preferred, then try that. But get tested so you are not assuming you are just fine. Maybe your "fine " is horrible and you don't know it until you are on the other side. Quite the game changer with mood, happiness, strength, recovery, stamina, and too many more to name.
 
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I am really surprised there aren't more that use TRT on here. If going natural herb route and other methods is preferred, then try that. But get tested so you are not assuming you are just fine. Maybe your "fine " is horrible and you don't know it until you are on the other side. Quite the game changer with mood, happiness, strength, recovery, stamina, and too many more to name.
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What must be really horrible is to depend on these drugs.

Just do something like this every morning:





 
Tremonti said:
I am really surprised there aren't more that use TRT on here. If going natural herb route and other methods is preferred, then try that. But get tested so you are not assuming you are just fine. Maybe your "fine " is horrible and you don't know it until you are on the other side. Quite the game changer with mood, happiness, strength, recovery, stamina, and too many more to name.
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I've been on TRT for 6 years now and it has made a world of difference for me. I'd probably be a sullen crank rotting away in a chair without it. My former doc at Vanderbilt put me on TRT in 2015 when I was 58. I was in the low 200s and didn't have much interest in anything.

With insurance I pay $7.50/mo. I am not looking forward to the day that my doc tells me that I have to quit, but I've been pre-approved for 2022.
 
I asked my doctor about t levels. He said his were just fine but I’d need to have a prostate exam.

During the exam he told me not to be embarrassed, men often get erections during this examination.

I told him I didn’t have an erection.

He said “I know, but I do”.
 
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