Any Physicists Here?

Any of you heard of or tracked Constructor Theory? I've only looked at it a bit, but it seems to be an abstract/logical approach to what is possible/impossible which could point to new or different areas to investigate.
 
Energy = a flow of something to where there is an absence or lesser amount of that same thing present. When approaching equilibrium energy slows. When it reaches a balance point, it stops. If so much of the universe is filled with dark matter and dark energy (96%?) there would be very little space (4-5%?) to create a flow of anything. It would definitely be noticeable (and observable) as it tried to balance with that small void in itself.
Energy isn’t a flow, but it can cause things to flow. As for that 96% number (which varies, depending on who’s posting and what Internet article they read last), that’s a ratio between light and dark stuff. It doesn’t mean that the universe is packed 96% full with something.

No matter how well someone has been schooled in mathematics or traditional theories, they still are human, have strengths, weaknesses and bias. Plus, all of these governing systems were designed by people. It's interesting to study but there are holes and patches everywhere.
All true. Science is a work in progress. Always has been.

There's a lot not talked about or just completely ignored because it can't be explained by accepted or traditional methods.
There’s a lot that is simply still not known. Science is about discovery, so it spends most of its time at the frontiers of knowledge — the borders between what we know and what we don’t — chipping away at what we still don’t know. The really deep and mysterious unknowns don’t see a lot of progress until a Newton or an Einstein comes along with something that makes a deep incursion into unknown territory and reliably explains a big chunk of what we didn’t know before.
 
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It's interesting to study but there are holes and patches everywhere.
Tru dat.

Humans (and the mind) are very bad at seeing and recognizing all the holes and blindspots and patchworks. Our assumptions, thoughts and experiences all "fill the gaps" with meaningful or plausible (to us) answers or reasons or causes. If there is something unexplainable, the "god of the gaps" (e.g. religion or science or ideology) gives us a ready-made answer or place to try to answer it. We are general terrible at being neutral or agnostic or letting things be uncertain, ambiguous, or ambivalent.

Some Eastern philosophies frame mental constructs (and "dualisms") as both necessary and delusory, relatively true but not ultimately true. From this perspective the mind and its objects (both personally and culturally) are constructs, both useful (in certain contexts) and highly distracting (say from pure awareness or other possible states of consciousness).

In the West, we are still very "rational" cause-and-effect/mechanistically oriented. It has lead to modern technological wonders and accomplishments. Idealistic people (I used to be one) dream of fixing society or alleviating human problems and suffering with STEM without seeing all the holes and blindspots and unintended consequences.
 
It's all shit! Take it all down/out! Blow it all up!

Haha! That could still happen, no?

I do like reading these threads because it reminds me of the COVID heydays where
you had to separate the science from the speculation, and the speculation from the
spectacle. :)
 
Energy isn’t a flow, but it can cause things to flow. As for that 96% number (which varies, depending on who’s posting and what Internet article they read last), that’s a ratio between light and dark stuff. It doesn’t mean that the universe is packed 96% full with something.

That's not correct. It's all that it is. Entropy exists. When all particles are distributed equally throughout the universe, matter will essentially be dead (or the force that orchestrates and drives them ceases). The universe expands because it's flowing into places where it's absent from. Maybe it's infinite and may or may not lose momentum, maybe it will hit a boundry and we will experience an undertow of these forces one day. Some believe it will stop expanding and return to a state similar as before the big bang.

There's more than one way to look at things. I do like hearing other views but deciding to accept them or not is my decision, which is as valid as any other until an absolute system is in place (which it won't be).
 
Tru dat.

Humans (and the mind) are very bad at seeing and recognizing all the holes and blindspots and patchworks. Our assumptions, thoughts and experiences all "fill the gaps" with meaningful or plausible (to us) answers or reasons or causes. If there is something unexplainable, the "god of the gaps" (e.g. religion or science or ideology) gives us a ready-made answer or place to try to answer it. We are general terrible at being neutral or agnostic or letting things be uncertain, ambiguous, or ambivalent.

Some Eastern philosophies frame mental constructs (and "dualisms") as both necessary and delusory, relatively true but not ultimately true. From this perspective the mind and its objects (both personally and culturally) are constructs, both useful (in certain contexts) and highly distracting (say from pure awareness or other possible states of consciousness).

In the West, we are still very "rational" cause-and-effect/mechanistically oriented. It has lead to modern technological wonders and accomplishments. Idealistic people (I used to be one) dream of fixing society or alleviating human problems and suffering with STEM without seeing all the holes and blindspots and unintended consequences.

Great post. :)

 
It's all pointless to try 2 understand "the universe" by us a pack of monkeys at this level of development we are now, with a limited life span, and with just a couple of centuries of real scientific discoveries...I mean come on... most of monkey population r still believing in mystical magical powers and live their life based on old books stories. We can all theorize about what might be out there..but our perception of our universe is limited by our limited sensorial capabilities and lack of observation and data. I do not believe humanity will be able to "get it" before extinction....or before simulation is ended.
 
It's all pointless to try 2 understand "the universe" by us a pack of monkeys at this level of development we are now, with a limited life span, and with just a couple of centuries of real scientific discoveries...I mean come on... most of monkey population r still believing in mystical magical powers and live their life based on old books stories. We can all theorize about what might be out there..but our perception of our universe is limited by our limited sensorial capabilities and lack of observation and data. I do not believe humanity will be able to "get it" before extinction....or before simulation is ended.
Agreed.

For most people tho, none of this meta/physical speculation matters much anyway with the kids fighting, the wife agitated, and the next greatest FW to install...
 
Agreed.

For most people tho, none of this meta/physical speculation matters much anyway with the kids fighting, the wife agitated, and the next greatest FW to install...

Haha! Then there are those of us diving into the Avatamsaka Sutra precisely because the
kids are fighting. ;)
 
It's all pointless to try 2 understand "the universe" by us a pack of monkeys at this level of development we are now, with a limited life span, and with just a couple of centuries of real scientific discoveries...I mean come on... most of monkey population r still believing in mystical magical powers and live their life based on old books stories. We can all theorize about what might be out there..but our perception of our universe is limited by our limited sensorial capabilities and lack of observation and data. I do not believe humanity will be able to "get it" before extinction....or before simulation is ended.

Since it's all made of the same stuff (us included) maybe we will understand it someday? There was a time when things were more pure than now and the people were very intelligent, even with limited resources and data. Without the distractions we endure today, they saw the bigger picture more clearly, although they didn't have the tools to solve the puzzle (we still don't). We didn't start as monkeys, but we are devolving to that stage.
If mathematics were the only absolute in the universe as some believe, all thought, action, and observation are part of that system - no matter how abstract or off-base it seems. People dismiss things when they have time and emotion invested in something different.
 
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There's something about having the right brain at the right place at the right time with the right tools.

Famous physics were smart and innovative but also a product of conducive circumstances. If they had grown up in their parent's basement in middle America with a killer video game set up, maybe they'd be on a MMP leaderboard or otherwise writing questionable manifestos.
 
I came into this thinking I was involved in a scientific discussion. Is it possible that this is actually a theological discussion?
What ever gave you that impression? lol Let's stick with scientific empirical evidence shall we?

Now upon Hubble being assigned to the Mt. Wilson Observatory in 1919 he soon discovered empirical evidence that he himself found to be "...a horror."

Why should empirical evidence be a horror unless it goes against preconceived ideas?
When part of your car breaks, you don't destroy your car and build another one from scratch. And when new information comes in, you don't abandon your carefully-constructed and tested models without a pretty strong reason.

Yes, but your error is in thinking "the car" is fully constructed and tested! It's not.....it always had flaws from the start

And the issue with cosmology is totally different from the car because with the car it "broke down" because of "engineering" flaws in operation. Cosmology's model breaks down as a result of an ongoing series of discoveries of physics evidence that falsifies the model.

With the car I see your analogy however, but when the fixes involves a series of "bootstraps" as opposed to the model is flat out false, the model does begin to look seriously ugly as a result.

Here:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18625061-800-did-the-big-bang-really-happen/

"Look at the facts," says Riccardo Scarpa of the European Southern Observatory in Santiago, Chile. "The basic big bang model fails to predict what we observe in the universe in three major ways." The temperature of today's universe, the expansion of the cosmos, and even the presence of galaxies, have all had cosmologists scrambling for fixes. "Every time the basic big bang model has failed to predict what we see, the solution has been to bolt on something new - inflation, dark matter and dark energy," Scarpa says. For Scarpa and his fellow dissidents, the tinkering has reached an unacceptable level. All for the sake of saving the notion that the universe flickered into being as a hot, dense state. "This isn't science," says Eric Lerner who is president of Lawrenceville Plasma Physics in West Orange, New Jersey, and one of the conference organisers. "Big bang predictions are consistently wrong and are being fixed after the event." So much so, that today's "standard model" of cosmology has become an ugly mishmash comprising the basic big bang theory, inflation and a generous helping of dark matter and dark energy. The trouble, says Lerner, who headed the list of more than 30 signatories, is that cosmology is bankrolled by just a few sources, and the committees that control those purse strings are dominated by supporters of the big bang.

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"According to the accepted view, when we observe ultra-distant galaxies we should see them in their youth. But there is a problem. "We don't see young galaxies," says Lerner. "We see old ones. They have pretty much the same range of stars as present-day galaxies." And that is bad news for the big bang. So if there was no big bang, where did the cosmic microwave background come from? Rather than coming from the big bang, Lerner believes that the cosmic background radiation is really starlight that has been absorbed and re-radiated. It is an old idea that was widely promoted by the late cosmologist and well-known big bang sceptic Fred Hoyle. Lerner's idea is similar, though he thinks that threads of electrically charged gas called plasma are responsible. "All astronomers know that 99.99 per cent of matter in the universe is in the form of plasma, which is controlled by electromagnetic forces," he says. "Yet all astronomers insist on believing that gravity is the only important force in the universe. It is like oceanographers ignoring hydrodynamics." In Scarpa's case, the mysterious dark matter is at fault. Dark matter has become an essential ingredient in cosmology's standard model. That's because the big bang on its own fails to describe how galaxies could have congealed from the matter forged shortly after the birth of the universe. Cosmologists fix this problem by adding to their brew a vast amount of invisible dark matter which provides the extra tug needed to speed up galaxy formation."


Now here's notable João Magueijo of Imperial College London in the same link above (though he himself has recently succumb to the committees that control those purse strings"

"People made these assumptions because, without them, it was impossible to simplify Einstein's equations enough to solve them for the universe," says Magueijo. And if those assumptions are wrong, it could be curtains for the standard model of cosmology. That may not be a bad thing, according to Magueijo. "The standard model is ugly and embarrassing," he says. "I hope it will soon come to breaking point."

Now back to Hubble, ....what scientific empirical evidence did he actually discover that he found "a horror"?

Now bear in mind that "Hubble's Bubble" and Einstein's Relativity is the reigning paradigm.

Here's where we see one of the first fruits of "corrupt science"...

Hubble looks in his new most advanced telescope and finds that he the observer....is in the center of universe!
This is precisely what he finds to be a horror! lol

He even admits this after he becomes famous in his 1929 book "The Observational Approach to Cosmology"

Here he is after he discovers the evidence:


Hubble:

"…Such a condition would imply that we occupy a unique position in the universe, analogous, in a sense, to the ancient conception of a central Earth.…This hypothesis cannot be disproved, but it is unwelcome and would only be accepted as a last resort in order to save the phenomena. Therefore we disregard this possibility…the unwelcome position Here of a favored location must be avoided at all costs… such a favored position is intolerable…. Therefore, in order to restore homogeneity, and to escape the horror of a unique position…must be compensated by spatial curvature. There seems to be no other escape."

"The Observational Approach to Cosmology (1937, pp. 50, 51, 58-59):

Notice he admits the idea cannot be disproved? ....and yet goes on to disregarding the "possibility"? ....and then admits that empirical evidence of this nature is "unwelcome"?

What's wild is he goes on and admits that this "MUST BE AVOIDED at all costs.."

Furthermore....why should empirical evidence be "a horror"? Isn't empirical evidence just that? Empirical Evidence?

He admits implementing "Spatial Curvature" to get away from the horror as he has no other ESCAPE.

Tell me this is not "corrupt science" and a preference for a preferred cosmological model.

This is just one of many very significant examples of such corruption perpetrated on the masses as "credible science"

It is interesting to note, and to Hubble's credit somewhat....that Hubble, the observer, even up to his final lecture before the Royal Society, always held open the possibility that the redshift did not mean velocity of recession but might be caused by something else. In his seminal book Realm of the Nebulae Hubble wrote:

"On the other hand, if the interpretation as velocity shifts is abandoned, we find in the redshifts a hitherto unrecognized principle whose implications are unknown."

He had 1 of 2 ways to interpret Redshift....he chose velocity of recession.

Hence ....the "Boot Strap" plagued lambdaCDM (Cold Dark Matter) Standard Model Big Bang

This is seriously just the tip of the iceberg

Funny....today ....it's "Follow the science" ........with incredibly strict restrictions on treatments.
 
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