Hi guys,
after getting to know the tone match functionality better I finally managed to complete the first set of amp matches.
I matched the Top Boost channel of my Vox AC30 Head, as seen in the picture below.
I’ll be adding the Normal channel soon.
After that I’ll be trying to get the Channel 3 of the Diezel in the background into the Axe.
I’ve matched the whole amp section (preamp + poweramp).
I grabbed the signal between poweramp and cab while having the box connected.
Matching ONLY the preamp was a lot easier but as I’m seriously thinking about replacing my amps with the Axe I needed to have the sound of the whole thing.
Because the tone colour changes with increasing gain I found that one match doesn’t do it justice.
As a consequence, I matched the Top Boost channel in 6 positions (see marks in the pic below):
9 o’clock
10.30
12
1.30
3
5.30 (full gain)
I tried to leave most parameters alone, especially the EQ.
In the higher gain patches I had to set the bass to 2.50 in order to get closest.
The Axe AC30 model has very much bass and it seems to even increase dramatically with higher gain settings.
Bright switch was turned on in the Axe amp.
Also, I’ve found that I always had to set the gain a little higher in the Axe amp controls in order to match the corresponding setting of the real amp.
During the routing and matching process I was very careful with setting all levels properly.
Key was setting the Bright Cap from 60 to 150.
The real amp still seems to have a bit more sizzle up to (and beyond) 20000 Hz whereas the Axe amp doesn’t have as much energy up there.
But this doesn’t really matter as there’s not really happening anything above 12000 Hz, in fact, the important things are below 7000 Hz then.
Regarding the test signal, using pink noise seemed the most reliable to me as I always got closer than with white noise.
As a comparison, see the next image, which shows the same tone match, on the left with pink noise, and with white noise on the right side.
As you can see, there is a difference in the curve. The result of the pink noise seems to be a bit more detailed in the high end and judging by ear, it seems to pick up the character of the reference source better.
Here are a few files with different settings to compare original and Axe.
I’ve used a Cab IR that I shot of the 412 GSH12 V30 box you see in the pic.
In the following 3 audio examples you’ll hear only 4 standard chords (A, G, D, E) to quickly compare.
I recorded a DI and reamped with the Axe.
The guitar in the following clips is an American Tele (as said before, it was not used to match!):
The gain settings used are:
10:30
Real AC30 vs Axe AC30 TB 1030 4 Chords by trapped by giraffe on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
12:00
Real AC30 vs Axe AC30 TB 1200 4 Chords by trapped by giraffe on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
01:30
Real AC30 vs Axe AC30 TB 0130 4 Chords by trapped by giraffe on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
The last clip compares a 03:00 gain setting with a short riff.
03:00
Real AC30 vs Axe AC30 TB 0300 Riff by trapped by giraffe on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
All presets were exclusively created through the front panel, so there should be no bug when you load the TMA block.
The presets are still in the tone match template, you may delete the third row of the grid.
They are completely dry, only Amp and TMA are activated.
It is recommended to activate a cab though!
Cab is attached as well.
Hope you got some use for them!
It really sounds totally like my AC30.
after getting to know the tone match functionality better I finally managed to complete the first set of amp matches.
I matched the Top Boost channel of my Vox AC30 Head, as seen in the picture below.
I’ll be adding the Normal channel soon.
After that I’ll be trying to get the Channel 3 of the Diezel in the background into the Axe.
I’ve matched the whole amp section (preamp + poweramp).
I grabbed the signal between poweramp and cab while having the box connected.
Matching ONLY the preamp was a lot easier but as I’m seriously thinking about replacing my amps with the Axe I needed to have the sound of the whole thing.
Because the tone colour changes with increasing gain I found that one match doesn’t do it justice.
As a consequence, I matched the Top Boost channel in 6 positions (see marks in the pic below):
9 o’clock
10.30
12
1.30
3
5.30 (full gain)
I tried to leave most parameters alone, especially the EQ.
In the higher gain patches I had to set the bass to 2.50 in order to get closest.
The Axe AC30 model has very much bass and it seems to even increase dramatically with higher gain settings.
Bright switch was turned on in the Axe amp.
Also, I’ve found that I always had to set the gain a little higher in the Axe amp controls in order to match the corresponding setting of the real amp.
During the routing and matching process I was very careful with setting all levels properly.
Key was setting the Bright Cap from 60 to 150.
The real amp still seems to have a bit more sizzle up to (and beyond) 20000 Hz whereas the Axe amp doesn’t have as much energy up there.
But this doesn’t really matter as there’s not really happening anything above 12000 Hz, in fact, the important things are below 7000 Hz then.
Regarding the test signal, using pink noise seemed the most reliable to me as I always got closer than with white noise.
As a comparison, see the next image, which shows the same tone match, on the left with pink noise, and with white noise on the right side.
As you can see, there is a difference in the curve. The result of the pink noise seems to be a bit more detailed in the high end and judging by ear, it seems to pick up the character of the reference source better.
Here are a few files with different settings to compare original and Axe.
I’ve used a Cab IR that I shot of the 412 GSH12 V30 box you see in the pic.
In the following 3 audio examples you’ll hear only 4 standard chords (A, G, D, E) to quickly compare.
I recorded a DI and reamped with the Axe.
The guitar in the following clips is an American Tele (as said before, it was not used to match!):
The gain settings used are:
10:30
Real AC30 vs Axe AC30 TB 1030 4 Chords by trapped by giraffe on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
12:00
Real AC30 vs Axe AC30 TB 1200 4 Chords by trapped by giraffe on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
01:30
Real AC30 vs Axe AC30 TB 0130 4 Chords by trapped by giraffe on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
The last clip compares a 03:00 gain setting with a short riff.
03:00
Real AC30 vs Axe AC30 TB 0300 Riff by trapped by giraffe on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
All presets were exclusively created through the front panel, so there should be no bug when you load the TMA block.
The presets are still in the tone match template, you may delete the third row of the grid.
They are completely dry, only Amp and TMA are activated.
It is recommended to activate a cab though!
Cab is attached as well.
Hope you got some use for them!
It really sounds totally like my AC30.
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