I've seen a few times where Cliff has said that he's done this type of thing because the original circuit was not optimal for the amp. These type of tweaks are a positive IMO. I would never prefer far less control just because it's more accurate to the original.An accurate-to-the real amp seems to be in keeping with Fractal's philosophy, but perhaps you also add an 'ideal' version of that parameter, that is somehow chosen by the user, as to which one is used when dialing it in?
So where does 3PM on the real amp when the presence comes on correlate to on the Axe FX versions?The current 100W 5150 models (6160, 6160+, 5153, etc.) use an idealized Presence control. This is because the Presence control on the real amps is the wrong taper IMO. The amps use a 20A taper. As such the Presence knob doesn't do anything until you turn it up to around 3/4.
The 50W version of those amps, however, use a reverse-log taper, which is the correct taper IMO. My belief is they realized the taper was wrong and implemented the fix on the 50W version which was introduced later.
The models use a reverse-log taper like the 50W version of the amps. This results in a smooth increase in presence as you turn the knob up rather than the response being concentrated in the upper 1/4 of the knob.
So... do you want weird taper like in the 100W amps or the reverse-log taper like in the models and the 50W version of the amps.
This is probably the best argument for idealized when it comes to the EQ section. Those who haven't used a particular amp don't know the 'quirks' it has and can only draw from experience with other models when it comes to how a certain parameter works. If this were on a 'critical' parameter, such as Gain, it becomes a completely different situation....would prefer the controls to be consistent across models
Make the correction Capt Stubing. Full steam ahead!The current 100W 5150 models (6160, 6160+, 5153, etc.) use an idealized Presence control. This is because the Presence control on the real amps is the wrong taper IMO. The amps use a 20A taper. As such the Presence knob doesn't do anything until you turn it up to around 3/4.
The 50W version of those amps, however, use a reverse-log taper, which is the correct taper IMO. My belief is they realized the taper was wrong and implemented the fix on the 50W version which was introduced later.
The models use a reverse-log taper like the 50W version of the amps. This results in a smooth increase in presence as you turn the knob up rather than the response being concentrated in the upper 1/4 of the knob.
So... do you want weird taper like in the 100W amps or the reverse-log taper like in the models and the 50W version of the amps.
I like that idea: a fully authentic version, and a FAS idealised versionauthentic and maybe ideal on FAS 5150?
Authentic. Anyone who has a real amp with a corresponding model uses their real world settings as a starting point. If those settings sound too far off, they think the model is garbage. Keeping all tapers authentic makes the analog to digital transition much smoother, more intuitive, and immediately familiar to those with experience with the real thing looking for a digital solution.
Plus, having to explain the non-authentic presence taper to people struggling with the model wouldn't be an issue anymore.
The amp is iconic even if the design isn't perfect. My vote goes to honoring the original design.