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Wait. What are we talking about?Is it quick and hard? Or slow and squishy?
Oh, okay. Never mind.Thats what I love about the AXE.
Wait. What are we talking about?Is it quick and hard? Or slow and squishy?
Oh, okay. Never mind.Thats what I love about the AXE.
I set the tone stack at noon. input gain at 10, master volume at 10. and just cycled through each of the low/mid gain amps. A lot of them sounded the same, some of them sounded slightly different but it wasn't night and day.
Why? When you play a physical amp do you crank the drive and master volume? Most people don't... And most amps are not designed to be set that way - for one thing, they would tend to be very loud, they would likely be very compressed and have minimal dynamics.
Why don't you try loading up each amp and then do a reset of the Amp block to get a default values? This would be a more realistic comparison.
The MV setting is going to be relative to the particular amp model or "flavor"... You're going to get very different results doing that on a Marshall versus a Mesa versus a Fender... And, as already mentioned, some amps are non-MV so those should typically be set to 10.Well I already discovered that no matter which amp model I use, the higher the master volume, the better the sound gets to me. However someone else mentioned that this is a side effect of playing at low volumes. Thing is, low volumes is what I am stuck with, and don't ever expect to play at higher volume levels. That's one of the main reasons I got the unit. To be able to have good tones at low volume levels, like reasonable TV volume level.
The lower the Master, the more sterile the tone sounds to me.
Anyways a lot of this was an experiment, I was just curious.
That's definitely the low volume talking. I get that you're stuck with it, and I sympathize. But try this:Well I already discovered that no matter which amp model I use, the higher the master volume, the better the sound gets to me. However someone else mentioned that this is a side effect of playing at low volumes. Thing is, low volumes is what I am stuck with, and don't ever expect to play at higher volume levels. That's one of the main reasons I got the unit. To be able to have good tones at low volume levels, like reasonable TV volume level.
The lower the Master, the more sterile the tone sounds to me.
Anyways a lot of this was an experiment, I was just curious.
I'd also recommend some ambient or studio verb at the end of the chain though headphones, makes it feel less direct.That's definitely the low volume talking. I get that you're stuck with it, and I sympathize. But try this:
Beg, steal or borrow a good pair of headphones. Turn off your monitors, and crank some decent volume through the 'phones. It doesn't have to be ear-splitting; just big and beefy. You'll hear differences that you never dreamed were in there.
Then try some of the high-gainers at varying Master Volume levels. Be sure to adjust Amp Level to compensate for the differences in level as you mess with MV. You'll discover why a dimed MV isn't always the best.
I'd also recommend some ambient or studio verb at the end of the chain though headphones, makes it feel less direct.
Well I already discovered that no matter which amp model I use, the higher the master volume, the better the sound gets to me. However someone else mentioned that this is a side effect of playing at low volumes. Thing is, low volumes is what I am stuck with, and don't ever expect to play at higher volume levels. That's one of the main reasons I got the unit. To be able to have good tones at low volume levels, like reasonable TV volume level.
The lower the Master, the more sterile the tone sounds to me.
Anyways a lot of this was an experiment, I was just curious.
Your making a big assumption about a cottage industry that doesn't hold water. Particularly since you also have psycho acoustic perception and human nature play into this.Sanity check.
If this were true, the amp industry would have died off roughly 60 years ago, and relied only on pedals and studio tricks. The OP is welcome to their opinion, but this is so patently untrue it's amazing to me this has lasted for 6 pages of thread.
Ron
Your making a big assumption about a cottage industry that doesn't hold water. Particularly since you also have psycho acoustic perception and human nature play into this.
We don't like things cause it sounds good, it sounds good cause we like it. Just as we perceive slightly louder as better in A/B.
That whole logic of the "amp industry" would've been gone is ludicrous...I mean how many guys have as their business model making a Plexi, IR Dumbke or AC30agreed. we say we know what we like but we really like what we know. The herd mentality of message forums is tacet proof of this to me, lol.
I'm not sure I quite understand.For those who have yet to try, take a listen to what you get using reactive digital load boxes and good IRs. I can run my amps at settings no one could handle with a cabinet and then lower the monitor volume to speaking levels and it sounds good to me. I admit not everyone would like my sounds but using my amps with my Torpdo Studios gives me the sound I Like. I only wish FAS could provide all of the gear I need to do this.