FM3 Firmware Version 12.0

The first preset is 000.
I checked it again today: Preset 035 is Tucana, preset 036 is FAS Modern. However, in the FM3 Edit list, preset 035 is Tucana and preset 036 is Tucana too. Only when you select 036 it shows correctly that the preset is in fact FAS Modern.
 
guitardoc said:
The first preset is 000.
I checked it again today: Preset 035 is Tucana, preset 036 is FAS Modern. However, in the FM3 Edit list, preset 035 is Tucana and preset 036 is Tucana too. Only when you select 036 it shows correctly that the preset is in fact FAS Modern.
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RANF.
 
guitardoc said:
The first preset is 000.
I checked it again today: Preset 035 is Tucana, preset 036 is FAS Modern. However, in the FM3 Edit list, preset 035 is Tucana and preset 036 is Tucana too. Only when you select 036 it shows correctly that the preset is in fact FAS Modern.
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In FM3 Edit, under the Settings tab, execute the "Refresh After New Firmware". That's what Rex is referring to above. Didn't see a response from you so wasn't sure you understood.
 
m_brown said:
IMPORTANT: This update adds new Dyna-Cab™ models to the FM3, bringing it in sync with the Axe-Fx III and FM9. To make room for these, the number of User Cab slots has been reduced from 1024 to 512. If you have any User Cabs stored in slots 513–1024, please back them up using FM3-Edit. Those slots will be removed, and any cabs in them will be permanently lost after the update.
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This is the reason why I'll never buy a fractal product again after purchasing an AXE-FX II an AX8 and an FM3.
 
Rex said:
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As a FM3 owner you lose half the storage capacity of your unit in order to update firmware. At the very least, the user should have had the choice as of which bank they would sacrifice to accommodate the required space. I personally don't care about 95% of the 2048 factory IRs stored. But I do need and spent years building my user library.

Let's remember that instead of assigning a name or a specific ID to each imported IR. They are IDed by slot number. Which was already in itself a massive shortcoming. But now anyone who took advantage of the product they bought in a professional capacity by creating presets for setlists and assigned custom IR to scenes end up having countless hours of tedious work ahead of them.

That's the reward we get for purchasing "professional" products.
 
JohnDoeJersey said:
As a FM3 owner you lose half the storage capacity of your unit in order to update firmware. At the very least, the user should have had the choice as of which bank they would sacrifice to accommodate the required space. I personally don't care about 95% of the 2048 factory IRs stored. But I do need and spent years building my user library.

Let's remember that instead of assigning a name or a specific ID to each imported IR. They are IDed by slot number. Which was already in itself a massive shortcoming. But now anyone who took advantage of the product they bought in a professional capacity by creating presets for setlists and assigned custom IR to scenes end up having countless hours of tedious work ahead of them.

That's the reward we get for purchasing "professional" products.
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You didn't lose half the storage capacity of the unit. You lost half the storage capacity for IRs. Granted, it's a hassle to migrate them. I get it. But...

When Dyna-Cabs came out, The FM3 community wanted in on that. In a big way. But the FM3 was already four years old, and there was no way to fit in Dyna-Cabs without removing something else. Fortunately, almost no one actually uses even 100 IRs in their presets, so the count was reduced to 512 to make room for Dyna-Cabs, in order to meet customer demand.

Why not let users decide to give up factory IR banks instead? Because that's a support nightmare. Having multiple FM3s out there with multiple configurations? Yuck. And imagine a new user being asked to choose a configuration they know nothing about, and not understanding the ramifications of that choice. Or that new user wondering why the factory presets aren't all there.

I'm glad they added Dyna-Cabs to the FM3. They're a real improvement in IR workflow.
 
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JohnDoeJersey said:
As a FM3 owner you lose half the storage capacity of your unit in order to update firmware. At the very least, the user should have had the choice as of which bank they would sacrifice to accommodate the required space. I personally don't care about 95% of the 2048 factory IRs stored. But I do need and spent years building my user library.

Let's remember that instead of assigning a name or a specific ID to each imported IR. They are IDed by slot number. Which was already in itself a massive shortcoming. But now anyone who took advantage of the product they bought in a professional capacity by creating presets for setlists and assigned custom IR to scenes end up having countless hours of tedious work ahead of them.

That's the reward we get for purchasing "professional" products.
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Simple solution: stop updating.

Being a professional unit has nothing to do with stopping progress.

Quite the opposite, actually...
 
JohnDoeJersey said:
As a FM3 owner you lose half the storage capacity of your unit in order to update firmware. At the very least, the user should have had the choice as of which bank they would sacrifice to accommodate the required space. I personally don't care about 95% of the 2048 factory IRs stored. But I do need and spent years building my user library.

Let's remember that instead of assigning a name or a specific ID to each imported IR. They are IDed by slot number. Which was already in itself a massive shortcoming. But now anyone who took advantage of the product they bought in a professional capacity by creating presets for setlists and assigned custom IR to scenes end up having countless hours of tedious work ahead of them.

That's the reward we get for purchasing "professional" products.
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You can store all your IRs on your computer and swap them at will.
If you’re playing live and not connected, I can’t imagine any situation where someone needs more than 512 IRs at any one time. Must be a sound guy’s biggest nightmare.
 
toneseeker911 said:
You can store all your IRs on your computer and swap them at will.
If you’re playing live and not connected, I can’t imagine any situation where someone needs more than 512 IRs at any one time. Must be a sound guy’s biggest nightmare.
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No doubt. For consistency it's always better to stick to one IR for a certain performance/show or different EQ's hitting the FOH would be hard to mix.
 
I can see JohnDoes point here, constantly changing your setup is a pain if you use the device in your live rig where consistency may be a priority. Personally I stuck on FW10 for my FM3 mk1 for that reason and because it sounds really good already. I am glad to have that option and I may update to the new firmware in the near future, but it's only a matter of time until we are in the same situation. This is good and bad for some of us. But I still think the FAS team does an outstanding job of pushing the platform forward and squeezing every drop of performance out of it. Very impressive.
 
At least with Fractal we do have a choice. I tried FW12 but it changed my tone and I like the sound on FW11 more (maybe because I didn't have really much time to dial the sound on FW12), as I had upcoming gigs I reverted and enjoying every gig for now. On a QC, once updated, it's done, no way to revert unless you reach out to NeuralDSP and perform some black magic or something (meaning it's not a out-of-box, user available option).

I will probably skip FW12 and wait for the next firmware to see if it doesn't change my tone as much. I'm already super happy with my sound with FW11 and FAS does a tremendous job pushing these updates to the FM3 and try to keep it on par (as much as possible) with its bigger brothers. Amazing work.
 
I think we as users often put Fractal between a rock and a hard place. As soon as any new features come out on the Axe FX, FM3 users chime in “will this be available here soon?” So on the ine hand we want the latest and greatest. But the FM3 is not the flagship. It does not have the capacity of the Axe FX. To constantly expect it to be equal is unrealistic. And then when Fractal tries to accommodate the FM3 and needs to compromise as in the current Dyna Cab situation, there is backlash now too.

We can’t have it all folks. I am lucky in that I have both units. I don’t expect to be able to do everything on my FM3 that I can do on my Axe FX.
 
JohnDoeJersey said:
As a FM3 owner you lose half the storage capacity of your unit in order to update firmware
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I guess you missed a crucial point, even a few:
1. Only if you upgrade to FW 12
2. You are not forced to upgrade, you can stay on FW1 or 11 as long as you wish
3. Having a few firmwares with different sounds essentially means you have multiple products while paying only for one - yes, you can choose which product you like more and stay with it or swap them daily
4. All these updates and new amps, cabs, effects etc. are free. No other company is that generous.

Just take a moment to reflect on that before hating on FW12 changes. 512 IR slots can cover needs of 512 presets, no?....
 
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