FM3 new user - gear amateur

kelloggsy said:
Thanks. How much turned up my monitor should be?
Should I get the 12" FRFR like headrush - then set the volume to 50%ish ? What's your commendation thank you :) - I don't currently own a monitor yet (FRFR or PA).
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My 1st speaker was the Headrush. I still use it for music playback but not for guitar. Volume settings you don’t need to worry about yet. If you haven’t played full range speakers with impulse responses before it might be a bit of a shock. Bugged me for awhile but that’s all I use now. Start with the factory presets and save copies to work on. Adjust them for your playing and guitars and room etc. Watch the videos in the links the guys posted. You’ll be ok and there’s help available here. Congrats!
 
skolacki said:
My 1st speaker was the Headrush. I still use it for music playback but not for guitar. Volume settings you don’t need to worry about yet. If you haven’t played full range speakers with impulse responses before it might be a bit of a shock. Bugged me for awhile but that’s all I use now. Start with the factory presets and save copies to work on. Adjust them for your playing and guitars and room etc. Watch the videos in the links the guys posted. You’ll be ok and there’s help available here. Congrats!
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so just to clarify its ok for me to go with headrush 12" frfr?
 
Adding to a question the OP asked.
What would you all say is a minimum acceptable decibel level to adequately evaluate the presets available in the FM3?
 
kelloggsy said:
so just to clarify its ok for me to go with headrush 12" frfr?
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I wouldn’t. I had their 8”, got rid of them, bought their 12” and they didn’t sound appreciatively better, so I got rid of them then moved to the EV PXM and they are very good.

I also have a pair of the Elis.8 /Pro and like them too.
 
duzie said:
Thanks
I’m currently just playing through the Fender Fr-12
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Then you might want to be closer to the 90dB range that @Greg Ferguson recommended since you're likely not that close to the FR-12. Be careful though, too loud will damage your hearing and it's something that won't come back once it's lost. 90-95dB is far too loud with my monitors but great in the auditorium I usually play. Environment plays a large part in perceived vs actual volume.

One thing to keep in mind, sometimes sounds perceived as "too loud" at reasonable levels, i.e. 80-85dB, is a result of frequency issues and not volume. I struggled with this when starting back into modeling. Once I dialed back the upper mids/highs, 2k-8kHz, playing at louder volumes was more pleasant and sounded much better.

I sometimes play in another auditorium with a differing EQ philosophy. They often get complaints about volume @90 dB, the one I usually play in gets no complaints @95 dB. The difference has always been the accentuated upper mids at the other venue.
 
JoKeR III said:
I sometimes play in another auditorium with a differing EQ philosophy. They often get complaints about volume @90 dB, the one I usually play in gets no complaints @95 dB. The difference has always been the accentuated upper mids at the other venue.
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That's usually a sign that the engineer spent one too many nights staring down the barrel of the screaming mains. They tend to compensate for their hearing loss with an upper-mid boost.
 
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Greg Ferguson said:
I wouldn’t. I had their 8”, got rid of them, bought their 12” and they didn’t sound appreciatively better, so I got rid of them then moved to the EV PXM and they are very good.

I also have a pair of the Elis.8 /Pro and like them too.
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Are yours the EV PXM-MP 12 in particular?

Also can you teach me how to measure the 95db sound going out from the speaker? Sorry for the noob question, I've never really done it before.
I will test it all once I have my gear arrive.
 
Rex said:
That's usually a sign that the engineer spent one too many nights staring down the barrel of of the screaming mains. They tend to compensate for their hearing loss with an upper-mid boost.
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There was one "engineer" that admitted at one point he couldn't hear above 8kHz which made sense why his mixes were typically bright and harsh. He used the EQ curve on the screen to get a shape that was "supposed to sound good". That's what happens when you don't have control over staffing and other 'leaders' trust the credentials or self-promotion of volunteers.
 
kelloggsy said:
Are yours the EV PXM-MP 12 in particular?
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In particular?

EV only makes one PXM model.

kelloggsy said:
Also can you teach me how to measure the 95db sound going out from the speaker? Sorry for the noob question, I've never really done it before.
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I’d recommend searching the internet for something like “how do I measure speaker volume” or something similar. There are many articles about it.

You’ll need a sound level meter. If you’re using an iPhone or iPad, look at the NIOSH Sound Level Meter App, which is free. On Android or other OSes it’s harder to find something.
 
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Greg Ferguson said:
In particular?

EV only makes one PXM model.



I’d recommend searching the internet for something like “how do I measure speaker volume” or something similar. There are many articles about it.

You’ll need a sound level meter. If you’re using an iPhone or iPad, look at the NIOSH Sound Level Meter App, which is free. On Android or other OSes it’s harder to find something.
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Great. It looks like the NIOSH has a 90db threshold, so as long as I hit the peak I'm alright :D
 
Greg Ferguson said:
In particular?

EV only makes one PXM model.



I’d recommend searching the internet for something like “how do I measure speaker volume” or something similar. There are many articles about it.

You’ll need a sound level meter. If you’re using an iPhone or iPad, look at the NIOSH Sound Level Meter App, which is free. On Android or other OSes it’s harder to find something.
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Looking to get the EV PXM - do you use yours in "GUITARCAB" mode for good stage representation?
 
skolacki said:
Using presets for specific guitars and or pickups does not negate tonal differences. I’m calling bs on that.
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I agree. I have "generic" presets that are dialed in to allow me to use whatever guitar and still have a good sound, but I also have presets that are dialed in specifically for different guitars that I have in order to get the best sound I can out of those specific guitars.
 
Frodebro said:
I agree. I have "generic" presets that are dialed in to allow me to use whatever guitar and still have a good sound, but I also have presets that are dialed in specifically for different guitars that I have in order to get the best sound I can out of those specific guitars.
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Any specific examples? With my PRS with Lollar El Rayo HH Pickup - I have to turn the guitar Tone knob down to 1 to get a smooth sound, not overly shrill or anything, but with my Elite Fender SSS, probably on about 3-4 mark.
 
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