Axe-Fx III Firmware 28.01 Release

alethomantis said:
If it's just a matter of my preference, that's fair enough.

However, something does seem to be different between the two versions. One can question how objective this assessment is and whether there is user error on my part but I thought that it might be worth bringing up as feedback, especially if you say there were no changes for these models.
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Adjust the master volume on the amps?
 
alethomantis said:
Perhaps there's something else at play then? This is a comparison clip (second clip is fw28.01 reamped using the DI from the first).

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alethomantis said:
It's the exact same preset on both firmwares. I don't understand where the difference should come from if nothing was changed for those models.
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I do hear (and visually see) a difference between the two, the 2nd clip appearing lower volume and less dynamic (perhaps compressed?).

While one can reflexively "blame" the new FW as the "cause", try to track it down more specifically. Make a copy of the preset that has just amp and cab and compare the two FWs to see if it is the amp block. If it is still different, maybe tweaking some parameters could get them close. Or maybe there is some hidden issue.

IMHO we users should do sleuthing on our own "problems" to remove all extraneous causes before attributing it to an amp model change.
 
yyz67 said:
I do hear (and visually see) a difference between the two, the 2nd clip appearing lower volume and less dynamic (perhaps compressed?).

While one can reflexively "blame" the new FW as the "cause", try to track it down more specifically. Make a copy of the preset that has just amp and cab and compare the two FWs to see if it is the amp block. If it is still different, maybe tweaking some parameters could get them close. Or maybe there is some hidden issue.

IMHO we users should do sleuthing on our own "problems" to remove all extraneous causes before attributing it to an amp model change.
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It's the identical preset (just amp and cab active) - I just checked all the settings page screenshots and all the values are the same (including input and output blocks).

For a second I was doubting my reamping setup but I just loaded fw28.01 again and the low end response just feels anemic in comparison to fw28.00.

If that's the more accurate - ok - I'm more than happy to stick with fw28.00 for the time being - it feels extremely satisfying to play.
 
alethomantis said:
It's the identical preset (just amp and cab active) - I just checked all the settings page screenshots and all the values are the same (including input and output blocks).

For a second I was doubting my reamping setup but I just loaded fw28.01 again and the low end response just feels anemic in comparison to fw28.00.

If that's the more accurate - ok - I'm more than happy to stick with fw28.00 for the time being - it feels extremely satisfying to play
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Given the bug in 28.0, I think the end goal for you is to make 28.01 sound like the former. There is a visual difference in the audio clips you posted with respect to peaks. Is the difference compression related? Do you have the compressor enabled on the input block?
 
Those two clips sound like they have different gain levels! @alethomantis I would definitely post the preset itself so FAS can see if there's anything wierd going on. I would also record a DI of you playing, played back through each preset, and post those clips, to emphasize that it's also not your playing. I'd post that DI track too. There is a big difference between those clips, so if we eliminate that it's not something in your recording or playing, then it's definitely in the firmware.
 
State of Epicicity said:
Those two clips sound like they have different gain levels! @alethomantis I would definitely post the preset itself so FAS can see if there's anything wierd going on. I would also record a DI of you playing, played back through each preset, and post those clips, to emphasize that it's also not your playing. I'd post that DI track too. There is a big difference between those clips, so if we eliminate that it's not something in your recording or playing, then it's definitely in the firmware.
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As per the poster, that is a reamped DI
 
alethomantis said:
It's the identical preset (just amp and cab active) - I just checked all the settings page screenshots and all the values are the same (including input and output blocks).
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Could it be some setting in the Audio tab under Setup button? Maybe something like USB Playback levels change between these two FW and that's why a difference is so drastic?
 
Chromatizm said:
Could it be some setting in the Audio tab under Setup button? Maybe something like USB Playback levels change between these two FW and that's why a difference is so drastic?
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That wouldn't change what's recorded, only the playback.

We don't have any information on the physical re-amp setup so it could be something there.

However, I really think this topic needs to move to it's own thread.

@alethomantis - start a separate thread, post a link to your DI and your preset.

Also, describe your re-amp setup.
 
Since the previous firmware (and intermittently with other firmware releases) my tuner gets kind of "choppy" is there any way to fix that when it happens?
 
Ok - I think I figured out the culprit.

Actually, potentially there are two.
1. I was routing the signal from Reaper only to the left input channel (OUT 6/7). After routing it to both (OUT7/8), the tracks look (almost) identical.
2. The other thing I noticed (as per suggestion of @Chromatizm) is that somehow (probably due to me going back and forth between firmwares) the input levels were reset to 50% in fw28.00 instead of the 8.5% default that I had.

So, thank you all for the help and apologies for my user error.
 
alethomantis said:
Ok - I think I figured out the culprit.

Actually, potentially there are two.
1. I was routing the signal from Reaper only to the left input channel (OUT 6/7). After routing it to both (OUT7/8), the tracks look (almost) identical.
2. The other thing I noticed (as per suggestion of @Chromatizm) is that somehow (probably due to me going back and forth between firmwares) the input levels were reset to 50% in fw28.00 instead of the 8.5% default that I had.

So, thank you all for the help and apologies for my user error.
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Now I have another trick in my own toolbox for when I make comparisons myself. I learned for your issue, and will apply that knowledge in the future. All good!
 
yyz67 said:
IMHO we users should do sleuthing on our own "problems" to remove all extraneous causes before attributing it to an amp model change.
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alethomantis said:
Ok - I think I figured out the culprit.

Actually, potentially there are two.
1. I was routing the signal from Reaper only to the left input channel (OUT 6/7). After routing it to both (OUT7/8), the tracks look (almost) identical.
2. The other thing I noticed (as per suggestion of @Chromatizm) is that somehow (probably due to me going back and forth between firmwares) the input levels were reset to 50% in fw28.00 instead of the 8.5% default that I had.

So, thank you all for the help and apologies for my user error.
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Thank you. 95% of the time it is user error (or a bad cable:)).

And It is almost a rule for many problems that it's not just one issue at play but compounding ones.
 
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