FM3 General Discussion Thread

Robboman said:
My advice to guitar beginners is to start on acoustic. Especially kids and teens. If you start them out on electric, the first thing they want to do is dial up a bunch of buzzy distortion and effects. God help you if there's a whammy bar involved.

Much better to learn how to play a few notes and chords on a distraction-free acoustic first.
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Completely disagree, at 13 the main reason I wanted to play guitar was exactly this.

Especially the "whammy bar," which 90% of my ESP guitars are Original Floyd Rose equipped, and I use it at every opportunity.

IMO each player has to learn by playing the type of stuff they are interested in, so handing a 6 string acoustic to a 13 year old wanting to djent isn't going to inspire him much.
 
volothamp said:
No digital device will be good for ten years.

I’ll give you the advice I would have liked to receive when I started. Get an used amp that will keep the value.

tell us which band do you like and we’ll tell you which amp to buy
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This just is not true.

I have multiple digital devices pushing 25 years and still doing fine.

My favorite is an ADA MP-2 midi tube preamp. Bought it in 1993.

Also have a bunch of other rack gear from the 80s that's working exactly as it did the day I bought it.

My Axe-Fx II is 7 years old now and I'm pretty sure it's not going to suddenly stop sounding fantastic 3 years from now.
 
volothamp said:
you don’t read it you but you know he wants it
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i don't know that, honestly. sounded like he wanted something that sounds good while he has it so it's worth the expense of buying something in general.

i never buy something to sell later. i buy it to use now. i know some buy things for resale value, but they're always compromising the way they use it. i buy gig gear to gig. it gets scratched. it gets worn. i use the heck out of it to get my money's worth while i have it. the moment you buy something, the resale value goes down. i've done enough craigslist to figure out if it's worth babying or not. just my approach.
 
postbeauty said:
beginner of guitar.
I just want to spend the money on something that is good for, say the next ten years.
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FM3 will be bleeding-edge modelling algorithms with top of the line AD/DA, at a price point below that of one single good amplifier, more durable than a ThinkPad, ten years from now they'll be like Pod beans that actually sound good. "Hey remember in 2020 when FAS went insane and put all of their modelling into a little dual pedal and sold it for a grand..." can't beat it with a stick
 
Soooo, It's been nearly a year since it was announced. Is there any clear ETA of these products landing the shelves? (even more so for those waiting in Europe).
 
volothamp said:
He wants a good resell value, from the point of view digital devices aren’t good
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Go try and find vintage electronics in perfect shape and working for cheap. I don’t think you understand the collector market very well. Everything is worth something over a long enough time span.
 
EchelonXIII said:
Soooo, It's been nearly a year since it was announced. Is there any clear ETA of these products landing the shelves? (even more so for those waiting in Europe).
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There is no ETA. I don't think we'll know until it actually is launched. Perhaps then you'll have an indication regarding ETAs for Europe.
 
Robboman said:
My advice to guitar beginners is to start on acoustic. Especially kids and teens. If you start them out on electric, the first thing they want to do is dial up a bunch of buzzy distortion and effects. God help you if there's a whammy bar involved.

Much better to learn how to play a few notes and chords on a distraction-free acoustic first.
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IMHO, that's the best way of making them lose interest very quickly. When I started out and enrolled in music school, we HAD to take (and pass) a year of solfège, sight)reading and -singing before we could even choose an instrument to play. If you wanted to play guitar, classical was the (only) way to go. I stuck with it and am glad I did, but I think I would have progressed faster - and certainly enjoyed it more - if I could have started out on a electric.
 
Just gigged friday night my 4CM setup with the Axe-Fx II + MFC-101 again. I love everything that processor if it weren't for the audio blurp/gap when switching presets, and would be happy if it's the last time I have to endure.

I really really hope the scene midi block solves this for me as for what I do I require seamless channel + effects switching... I already know everything else will be amazing.

Come on guys, you're customers are eagerly waiting!
 
Admin M@ said:
Adding an FC-6 gets you FOUR extra switch jacks and FOUR extra pedal jacks!
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And 6 extra LED-indicated buttons.... ;)

You can also torture an expression pedal into giving you three sounds on one device, with clean, smooth transitions between them....
 
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