mbrown3
Inspired
Point being - from a UK perspective... I don't see anything wrong with buying to try. The law covers for it over here.
It's the same here.
Point being - from a UK perspective... I don't see anything wrong with buying to try. The law covers for it over here.
Sure thing. It may be a while until I can try the Axe, but I'll post impressions of the Kemper for sure.
Do you really care if your modeller sounds 100% like the real amp being modeled?
But obsessing over those 3 or 4 real amps and that one sound that each of them gets sounds really limiting to me.
Did I read earlier in this thread that you are in Columbus? I'm in Columbus if you want to do a side-by-side with my AxeII. Send me a PM.
So those 3-4 amps have hundreds of usable sounds. Being able to capture each of them and replicate my existing rig as close as possible is appealing.
YES! PM sent. Thank you. Awesome.
No. I didn't say it was positive or negative...just highlighting that this is how each amp differs from the other. Both are valid approaches, for different uses.
Except in my 3-4 real amps, I have a TON of usable tones. The Road King has four channels, each with three sub-"flavors" (clean, tweed, heavy), plus it uses both 6L6 and EL34 tubes that can be combined in any combination. The MOD50 has the ability to swap modules created from the original amp's circuits. I have numerous modules, each with two channels. The amp can easily swap tube types from 6L6 to EL34 as well. I have multiple cabs that I can use as well. The Rebel-30 has the option to mix 6V6 and EL84 tubes at will. So those 3-4 amps have hundreds of usable sounds. Being able to capture each of them and replicate my existing rig as close as possible is appealing.
Whether I want to take the time to do that for each tonal variation, OTOH, is another question entirely.
I don't believe an actual Road King has been modeled yet by Cliff.
But I do think I've seen him say that the RK clean channel is basically a bf type of circuit and there are all sorts of bf preamps represented on the Axe's amp sims, including some from Mesa.
I don't know that much about the RK gainy sounds but are they really all that disimilar from those found in a MKII C+ or a MKIV or a Rectifier or a Triaxis, all of which currently do reside inside the Axe?
Exactly!
So either you're missing my point that a single Axe amp sim can have its virtual knobs set in all sorts of configurations that very closely mimic the sound of the same knob positions on the real amp or you're looking at this from a different perspective that I have yet to grok.
I don't believe an actual Road King has been modeled yet by Cliff.
But I do think I've seen him say that the RK clean channel is basically a bf type of circuit and there are all sorts of bf preamps represented on the Axe's amp sims, including some from Mesa.
I don't know that much about the RK gainy sounds but are they really all that disimilar from those found in a MKII C+ or a MKIV or a Rectifier or a Triaxis, all of which currently do reside inside the Axe?
This thread has become pointless, there is nothing more anyone can tell you, words cannot possible be used to reliably compare features, amps , sounds or how you can use it.
You need to either
- go somewhere that has both, so you can sample them both
- lash out and buy one, resell it if you don't like it
- Or go and practice some guitar until you have decided either way
I guess I don't understand your point. I mean, I already know that an Axe amp sim can have settings changed however you want, and that it mimics the sounds of the amp. I also know that the Kemper takes more of a snapshot in time. That's the main difference between the products. But...so what?
I guess I don't understand your point. I mean, I already know that an Axe amp sim can have settings changed however you want, and that it mimics the sounds of the amp. I also know that the Kemper takes more of a snapshot in time. That's the main difference between the products. But...so what?
This thread has become pointless, there is nothing more anyone can tell you, words cannot possible be used to reliably compare features, amps , sounds or how you can use it.
You need to either
- go somewhere that has both, so you can sample them both
- lash out and buy one, resell it if you don't like it
- Or go and practice some guitar until you have decided either way
You missed option 4. Have a manufacturer send you their product at their expense so you can return it, predetermined. The manufacturer gets both to eat the shipping and deal with a returned unit. Dream customer.
Why would anyone do this? You really seem to have an axe to grind with the shipping issue. Everyone else seems to have gotten over it. You're still making childish snipes about it, without even really understanding the issue.
Are you representative of the whole Axe-FX community?
Eh, why bother. Ignored.