Windows 10 support ends - Are you interested in Linux support by FAS?

Windows 10 support ends - Are you also intersted in Linux support by Fractal Audio?

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Unfortunately, all wine-based attempts will fail sooner or later. IME a proper KVM/qemu-based VM is the way to go if you want a hassle-free experience under Linux.
 
TheRedDevil said:
Well I tried current Bottles under current Ubuntu LTS but I have the same issue like with current wine version: The AXXEdit window is empty, no preset loaded and no connection. I have to move the window to the screen corners to get a reaction. Then only a part of the window is filled/rendered:

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Did you install Bottles from the distro or from a flatpak? The flatpak version is sandboxed kinda. You need to use a program called flatseal to grant it permissions to everything, and even then it's not great. If you're using that, then I would suggest uninstalling it and installing the one from the distro. I just have the bottle set to run it with the latest Soda, DXVK, VK3D, and DXVK NVAPI in the settings.
 
TheRedDevil said:
The support end of Windows 10 is near. I use Debian/Ubuntu Linux since many years and I don't want to support the cloud and data collection strategy of Microsoft (and Apple). The one and only reason to use Windows 10 is the FAS software but in October I need to buy a new PC incl. Windows 11 or get offline with my Windows 10 PC :(
A VM is no good solution (recording/reamping latency) and Linux Wine is not really supported.

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it's a bummer but I don't see why you'd have to go offline w/ Win 10- with a good antivirus and firewall I ran XP way past it's demise and the same w/ Win 7 w/ no problems
 
Guitarmandan said:
it's a bummer but I don't see why you'd have to go offline w/ Win 10- with a good antivirus and firewall I ran XP way past it's demise and the same w/ Win 7 w/ no problems
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What constitutes good antivirus?
What constitutes a good firewall?
Those are real questions I'd like real answers to btw, not just talking points.

But more importantly, how much effort do i want to put into that ongoing game of cat and mouse?
 
Dave Merrill said:
Are people really using the $600 mini for music multitracking, with VSTs, VSTIs, audio etc? What's the $1300 model with good multicore performance?
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I’m using a 2020 M1 for multitracking, VST/VSTi, etc. It’s far more stable than any PC I’ve had before it, be it preconfigured or something I built. My M3 Air is even faster.
 
Thanks to all for tolerating my Mac-ignorant questions :)

Does multicore performance matter much for DAW work, specifically Studio One?

If so, does it actually matter only on super huge projects, or smaller projects too?
 
I've not had an antivirus on win or mac for about 12 years. Windows has defender, which is fine and mac it's not needed. Just don't download weird stuff, open weird attachments or run weird, unknown executables, keep it up to date and you'll be fine.
 
Dave Merrill said:
Are there analogous MacBooks, powerful and cheap-ish?
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The M4 version of the MacBook Air is expected in the next few weeks. It's hard to say if it will be as much of a bargain as the M4 Mac Mini is.

Dave Merrill said:
Does multicore performance matter much for DAW work, specifically Studio One?

If so, does it actually matter only on super huge projects, or smaller projects too?
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I think that amounts to asking if computer performance matters. If you are using anything except the simplest of projects, the answer to that will be "yes", and one of the best ways to get the best performance out of a computer when using any DAW is to take advantage of multiple cores.
 
GlennO said:
The M4 version of the MacBook Air is expected in the next few weeks. It's hard to say if it will be as much of a bargain as the M4 Mac Mini is.



I think that amounts to asking if computer performance matters. If you are using anything except the simplest of projects, the answer to that will be "yes", and one of the best ways to get the best performance out of a computer when using any DAW is to take advantage of multiple cores.
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I've done a bit of research, and supposedly Studio One is highly optimized for multiple cores.

Seems like the best play is to wait until win 10 sunset is closer, then pick the fastest and most cost efficient mini that's available, however that trade-off seems to resolve.

All other things being equal, which of course they're not, I'd prefer a laptop just for flexibility, but as @GlennO said, it's highly unlikely a high powered MacBook will be anything like cheap.
 
dr bonkers said:
Ever since Steve Jobs made my Gil Amelio Imax Quadra clone a doorstop 6 months after I bought it by upgrading the OS to be incompatible with my clone and they capped my warranty replacement of my iPhone 3GS after the third replacement due to charging port excessive wear, I said I would rather wear napalm ignited underwear than purchase another Apple product.

They churn for the new purchase with accelerated obsolescence.
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For me it was the DRM they put in everything, then the way they treat the app store. Wont give them a dime, ever.
 
I love Linux and ran several flavors for years but it’s just not practical for music production. I make a living using Microsoft products (Software Development) so I am naturally biased towards them but Windows is the GSD choice for me for pretty much everything, including music production. Frankly the only reason I ever got into Mac was compatibility with studios I was working with but that is not a problem anymore. So yeah it would be cool to have native Linux support but it’s not necessary and probably not on anyone’s roadmap. Windows ftw, and btw I am on Win 10 on my personal machines and Win 11 on my business stuff. I like Win 10 more but progress and all that. 😉
 
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DLM said:
Did you install Bottles from the distro or from a flatpak? The flatpak version is sandboxed kinda. You need to use a program called flatseal to grant it permissions to everything, and even then it's not great. If you're using that, then I would suggest uninstalling it and installing the one from the distro. I just have the bottle set to run it with the latest Soda, DXVK, VK3D, and DXVK NVAPI in the settings.
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Thank you. I used the version from flathub but incl. Soda, DXVK, VK3D and I also tried DXVK NVAPI setting once. I will repeat it with the deb/apt installer version.
 
Yes, I am interested. I've been using Linux for years - since before I got my first Fractal product.
However, I don't really need native support. Right now Linux is good enough to just run Axe Edit with wine without any configuration, so I'm happy with things as they are.

That being said, I don't see any disadvantages of having the software be cross platform from a consumer's perspective. The real issue is with development time. If FAS can afford to make a Linux version, that'd be great, otherwise I'll just keep using wine.
 
Guitarmandan said:
it's a bummer but I don't see why you'd have to go offline w/ Win 10- with a good antivirus and firewall I ran XP way past it's demise and the same w/ Win 7 w/ no problems
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You just need to open a website incl. jpegs or a youtube video with a worm or virus included. I will never install a Anti Virus programm anymore. That's the best way to get access to all your data. A firewall just blocks access from outsite, but when I access something it does not help. Whitelisting is a better way but to much effort for a personal PC. My PC is fast enough for what I am doing with it. I will not exchange the hardware just because MS wants it (sustainability). I don't need and want an Apple, same story like a MS based computers. Linux is perfect and I can do everything what I want. There I'm still the admin and not just the user. Stability with Linux: 100%. All my other IT devices in my home are based on Linux. No way back since Windows 7 ("Admin, your are not allowed to ...", "Windows can not find boot manager on this SSD device").
 
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