What would the new-gen even have that the current gen doesn’t?

alexanderhodge_ said:
prettier case (different colour options- I want a white Axe FX)
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White enamel, changing color according to temperature, like those Hot Wheels cars from back-in-the-day.

Or upright, in a beige, plasticy "early 90s office PC" enclosure with a CD drive hard-wired to a "CD-input" and a CD block. And a PS/2 trackball & keyboard (with a spiral chord) and a snazzy monochrome amber display.
 
alexanderhodge_ said:
Built in power amp, prettier case (different colour options- I want a white Axe FX) modern UI with ability to select different themes/skins, Bluetooth control, no touch screen, 3 amp blocks, Profiling/Capturing, aux input, channel strip/studio preamp block, usb slot to make backups, acoustic sim block, more focus on dyna-cabs and visual tweaking rather than endless lists of IRs.
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A list of good ideas, but the built-in power amp doesn't makes sense for a large group of users. I use Fractal gear so I don't have to have an amplifier.
 
Rock Chalk said:
One wish is as good as the next, but it's been a loooong time since I remember feeling limited by the amp selection we have.
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[ Ducking...] You're not a bassist, are you? [ Ducking...] In all seriousness though, it's not just amp selection. NAM can be used to model tone and drive characteristics of everything from tube DI boxes to preamps to dirt pedals. Yes, they're static captures. NAM is open source and its community appears to be growing rapidly. If we assume FAS isn't going to get around to bass ( or other esoteric ) indulgences any time soon, this would greatly help keep us within the FAS world and likely attract others INTO it. JMHO.

NAM (player) loading integration is available currently on a handful of pedals ( some of dubious distinction IMO, though the Darkglass Anagram has a lot of bassists hot and bothered ) which seems to indicate that it can be done without the necessity of extraordinary cpu processing demands.

https://www.neuralampmodeler.com/post/early-2025-round-up-more-nam-adoption

I'm guessing this also has to do with proprietary NAM "lossy" data compression schemes used by these manufacturers, and not trivial if expectations are for pro-quality performance. ( Doubtful anyone cares too much if a Hotone mult-fx pedal has NAM playback that only sounds meh. It is what it is. )

Is there an in-depth NAM thread on the forum? Curious to hear the impressions of those who've dug in hard using NAM for dirt pedals, preamps and guitar amps. I personally would ALWAYS prefer Fractal's component level modeling, but short of that....
 
A mic input, more I/O (analog)
A touch screen, tablet and smartphone app with similar pages/function/behaviour
variable number of istance (depending on available resources)
A better way to handle songs storage/recall (better integration with patch/scenes/channels: a "versus" can recall/store the status of the patch blocks - no need for scenes? -, BPM stored into song and/or versus; user set of songs, with easy layout navigation...)
More dynamic options (eq, fx, clipper...).
Fuzz input emulation... +1 on cup holder... :)
 
jimfist said:
[ Ducking...] You're not a bassist, are you? [ Ducking...] In all seriousness though, it's not just amp selection. NAM can be used to model tone and drive characteristics of everything from tube DI boxes to preamps to dirt pedals. Yes, they're static captures. NAM is open source and its community appears to be growing rapidly. If we assume FAS isn't going to get around to bass ( or other esoteric ) indulgences any time soon, this would greatly help keep us within the FAS world and likely attract others INTO it. JMHO.

NAM (player) loading integration is available currently on a handful of pedals ( some of dubious distinction IMO, though the Darkglass Anagram has a lot of bassists hot and bothered ) which seems to indicate that it can be done without the necessity of extraordinary cpu processing demands.

https://www.neuralampmodeler.com/post/early-2025-round-up-more-nam-adoption

I'm guessing this also has to do with proprietary NAM "lossy" data compression schemes used by these manufacturers, and not trivial if expectations are for pro-quality performance. ( Doubtful anyone cares too much if a Hotone mult-fx pedal has NAM playback that only sounds meh. It is what it is. )

Is there an in-depth NAM thread on the forum? Curious to hear the impressions of those who've dug in hard using NAM for dirt pedals, preamps and guitar amps. I personally would ALWAYS prefer Fractal's component level modeling, but short of that....
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As I stated, one wish is as good as the next, and if you want to wish for a NAM player/capture device, so be it. Like I said, I'm totally happy with a straight modeler, and would just as soon have all the resources available spent on that. Only time will tell which direction Cliff wants to take it.......and you're right......[ Ducking...].....I'm not a bassist....... [ Ducking...] laugh.gif
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned but some kinda implementation of Axe Edit on the unit itself. Either touch screen or knobs. The UI of Axe Edit is so much easier to navigate instead of current units UI. Though with just knobs would be challenging I'm sure.
 
unix-guy said:
The Pitch block is already polyphonic...

Are you talking about processing each string independently? Because that isn't feasible without a special pickup at (and support for that on the Axe Fx).

Or maybe you mean the Synth block?
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There are quite a few pedals that can process polyphonic input without the GK pickup, all of the Boss SY line, The EHX 9 line, Meris Enzo, Enzo X, Mooer E7.

I'd love polysynth on the fractal so I can ditch my Enzo.

I'd also love polyphonic tuning on the fractal, Then I could ditch my Digitech HT6, life is too short to check tuning one string at a time. The boss GX10, GX100, GT1000 & GT1000 core have it.
 
luckymethod said:
I'm sure there's companies out there doing s shit job at implementing wireless connectivity to their devices but I promise you there's millions of devices out there managing to not have any issues whatsoever and working perfectly every day.
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Actually, there are a number of well-known manufacturers of audio equipment that have attempted to implement WIFI and/or Bluetooth connectivity who’s products exhibited serious issues…in fact…in many cases external WIFI routers were required to be utilized instead of the routers provided as part of the original equipment.
 
billy_joule said:
There are quite a few pedals that can process polyphonic input without the GK pickup, all of the Boss SY line, The EHX 9 line, Meris Enzo, Enzo X, Mooer E7.

I'd love polysynth on the fractal so I can ditch my Enzo.

I'd also love polyphonic tuning on the fractal, Then I could ditch my Digitech HT6, life is too short to check tuning one string at a time. The boss GX10, GX100, GT1000 & GT1000 core have it.
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Please tell me a device that can process each string individually without a special pickup.

Please read what I wrote again...
 
Axe FX IV Floor...

A fully featured and equal processing power as the rack as well as 18 buttons with scribble strips and rotating encoder knob footswitches....
 
unix-guy said:
Please tell me a device that can process each string individually without a special pickup.
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I mean in the general definition of 'process', the Enzo X can 'process' six notes from six strings and can assign a two oscillator voice to each of those notes. A mono synth like the fractal can only 'process' single notes. Perhaps that doesn't align with some audio specific definition of process but google is not forthcoming with such a definition for me.
 
billy_joule said:
I mean in the general definition of 'process', the Enzo X can 'process' six notes from six strings and can assign a two oscillator voice to each of those notes. A mono synth like the fractal can only 'process' single notes. Perhaps that doesn't align with some audio specific definition of process but google is not forthcoming with such a definition for me.
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That is not what I'm talking about.

Have you ever used a GK or other synth pickup?

Each string has an individual pickup.

Each string can be processed individually.

You can for example assign the lowest string to play a bass synth dropped an octave while the other strings play a piano sound.

That is completely different from applying the same effect too all notes played on different strings.

As I already said, the Pitch block IS polyphonic.

The person I was responding to asked for a polyphonic Pitch block.

Note that I also asked if they were maybe thinking of the (monophonic) Synth block.

I would also love a polyphonic Synth block.
 
Not sure if it's been said, but

1) A way to move/organize presets and cabs to different spots without breaking the link between them. This drives me bananas when I buy a new preset pack with its own cabs and I have to move things around across dozens of presets.

2) Fryette Ultralead!
 
luckymethod said:
I'm sure there's companies out there doing s shit job at implementing wireless connectivity to their devices but I promise you there's millions of devices out there managing to not have any issues whatsoever and working perfectly every day.
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Audience members launching DDOS attacks? Where are these cities and venues full of black hat geeks?

As you suggest, wifi is usually not problematic EXCEPT

1) Many digital mixers with built-in wifi have inexplicably weak signals/range. An external router is de facto standard equipment for most.

2) Far too many people simply use the default frequencies which - unsurprisingly - are often already in use at venues.
 
sprint said:
Off the top of my head I can think of several Ax4 items. In no particular order:
  • Relay switching jacks to facilitate amp channel switching in 4cm scenarios.
  • Separated Left/Right Input and Output blocks.
  • Stereo block input option for all pitch modes (several only allow mono in the current Axefx).
  • Acoustic sim block including 12 String mode.
  • Feedbacker block equal or better than digitech Freqout.
  • Doubler block equal or better than TC mimic.
  • A Tape/Doubler block equal or better than Strymon Deco.
  • Increased CPU (yes - some can max it in some scenarios (and always will)).
  • Full user assignable CPU without block instance limits within available CPU.
  • Allow distinct modifiers attached to a given control in each and every channel.
  • Isolated virtual power amp section capability.
  • Reverse MUX block that can send input to a selectable mix of multiple output paths.
  • More Send/Return blocks.
  • Profiling capability (have not always been a fan, but Tonex convinces me it is at least .. "handy".
  • Export Tone Match to PEQ.
  • 31 Band Output EQs - on/off midi switchable.
  • Offline Patch Editing.
  • Ios editor support.
  • Separate headphone volume ctrl.
  • Customizable front panel home screen.
  • 2U Form factor.
  • Merged Midi Out/Thru option.
  • Polyphonic synth
  • ...
(There's a thread for this list somewhere (Ax4 feature list) but I can't seem to find it.)
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Every single one of these routing creature comforts would make this an instant pickup and replacement for me. I love my Axe III and its truly the most incredible piece of effects processing equipment I have ever owned, but I like to get a bit exotic with deployment if you catch my drift and its Input/Output routing is easily this units weakest link. Separate L+R channels and reverse MUX would genuinely allow this thing to be used as a versatile 8ish channel outboard effects processor patched to console inserts. You can easily do a couple stereo effects sends now and its totally rad but having individual channel control opens up a lot of possibilities, including buying another unit for 16 channels ;).

Oh and front panel USB type A or C. Those of us that are in challenging rack related situations could use a break.
 
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