Use DynaCab workflow on any IR (video)

[AlGrenadine]

If you want to use the DynaCab workflow on any IR :


Of course, it's not mathematically right, but it gets you interesting results

 

[OrganicZed]

Clever.

 

[Alainarose]

Nice idea. Being that I never mic'd a speaker before in my life this is all a learning experience for me with tons of trial and error. Interesting that you move the mic's so far away from the speaker. Maybe this is what I need to do so my Dyna Cabs more sound (in the room) and open as opposed to direct on shrilly when turned up to higher volumes.

 

[AlGrenadine]

Nice idea. Being that I never mic'd a speaker before in my life this is all a learning experience for me with tons of trial and error. Interesting that you move the mic's so far away from the speaker. Maybe this is what I need to do so my Dyna Cabs more sound (in the room) and open as opposed to direct on shrilly when turned up to higher volumes.

I just used my ears, not so far ^^
I think live musicians put the mics close to the cabs primarily for a better snr and less larsen

 

[floydrose]

Bien pensé Al ^^

 

[jbigg21]

Nice. Was hoping you were going to play the riff from "Find The Real". Such a killer song! Would you be willing to post that preset?

 

[Admin M@]

Interesting but not quite the same. I think you can improve your process:

1. Start with a mic position that you think looks like what the original IR may have been. Most factory IRs are around the edge of the dustcap at about 1". In other words, let the source share more of that natural sizzle and proximity.

2. Use live mode instead of off line.

3. Play the tone match boogie: chromatic chords up the neck.

 

[AlGrenadine]

Nice. Was hoping you were going to play the riff from "Find The Real". Such a killer song! Would you be willing to post that preset?

I can share the preset but it uses a commercial ir

 

[GlennO]

Interesting but not quite the same. I think you can improve your process:

1. Start with a mic position that you think looks like what the original IR may have been. Most factory IRs are around the edge of the dustcap at about 1". In other words, let the source share more of that natural sizzle and proximity.

2. Use live mode instead of off line.

I've never been clear on what exactly the difference between these is.

3. Play the tone match boogie: chromatic chords up the neck.

Recording that into a looper block is a good way to make sure the reference and local get the same thing played into them.

 

[AlGrenadine]

Interesting but not quite the same. I think you can improve your process:

1. Start with a mic position that you think looks like what the original IR may have been. Most factory IRs are around the edge of the dustcap at about 1". In other words, let the source share more of that natural sizzle and proximity.

2. Use live mode instead of off line.

3. Play the tone match boogie: chromatic chords up the neck.

Thanks
Will try the live mode asap
For the original mic position i absolutely have no idea how it was shot, it's a mix of irs sold by a dead company ...

 

[AlGrenadine]

I've never been clear on what exactly the difference between these is.



Recording that into a looper block is a good way to make sure the reference and local get the same thing played into them.

Here they get the same source signal so i'm also sure

 

[jbigg21]

I can share the preset but it uses a commercial ir

That's cool. Which IR? I already own a bunch of them.

 

[AlGrenadine]

That's cool. Which IR? I already own a bunch of them.

Messiah #2

 

[Dramelot]

And yep I liked your work around! What if share dyna cab block w/ Ultra ir's? Thank ya for the idea

 

[AlGrenadine]

And yep I liked your work around! What if share dyna cab block w/ Ultra ir's? Thank ya for the idea

What do you mean ?
https://media.tenor.com/viaHrGJrYQEAAAAM/what-do-you-mean-reaction-what-do-you-mean.gif

 

[ApocalypticKatana]

On a related note, what is the IR Length of these IR’s from the Tone Match Block when you export them to your User Cab?

 

[AlGrenadine]

On a related note, what is the IR Length of these IR’s from the Tone Match Block when you export them to your User Cab?

Dunno
Maybe the answer can be found here :
https://wiki.fractalaudio.com/wiki/index.php?title=Impulse_responses_(IR)

 

[trancegodz]

Thanks Al. I'm definitely going to try this out.

 

[Dave Merrill]

OK I'm officially stoopid.
Can someone explain to me, in words, the steps being taken here, and how/why they accomplish what?
There's no way post processing after the fact can "re"-create the tones that speaker would have with different mic positions and distances.

 

[KenR]

OK I'm officially stoopid.
Can someone explain to me, in words, the steps being taken here, and how/why they accomplish what?
There's no way post processing after the fact can "re"-create the tones that speaker would have with different mic positions and distances.

If I follow it correctly it appears he uses the tone match block to get a dyna cab to sound close to a legacy IR and the turns off the legacy ir and uses the mic position capabilities of the dyna cab block to approximate what it would be like moving the mic on the legacy cab.