There might be one in the FX library that you could use as an insert. Never looked for one. Not the same thing, but you could use the compressor that's built into each channel.so, just wondering....does the xr18 have a limiter built in? never used one before. could this be a potential solution to our rhythm gtr playing so loudly at times?
Every channel on the XR18 has a Compressor that can be setup as a hard limiter.so, just wondering....does the xr18 have a limiter built in? never used one before. could this be a potential solution to our rhythm gtr playing so loudly at times?
Of course, you’d NEVER think of ducking the guitar channels! NEVAH! LOL!Speaking of compression and mixing yourselves. Another really cool (auto-mix) trick that I use on our XR18 is to have, otherwise unused, compressors on my guitar and backing track channels 'side-chained' to the lead vocal channel, so that when ever he is singing, those two stereo channels (duck) drop down by around 3 dB. Then when there is no lead vocal, they bump back up to fill in the mix.
I haven't done this to the drums and bass, as they don't really inhabit the same vocal frequency range as much. But might still be useful.
I try to be a team player. But honestly, the guitar is probably a little loud. And the compression during the lead vocal parts just puts the guitar back where it should have been already...Of course, you’d NEVER think of ducking the guitar channels! NEVAH! LOL!
That’s a cool trick!
I just joined a band with an XR18, and I think I know know more about it than they do, but I’d love to learn more. Any cool forums similar to this one for it?
i couldnt agree w you more. ive had hours long phone calls talking about creating presets, sitting in mixes, pedal settings and signal chain. ive done the same in person as well as writing a ridiculously long list of steps and emailing after he told me he was going to factory reset his Boss pedal a few days before our first gig. he literally didnt even read the first sentence stating what to plug into (the power amp in on his katana). AAF is an understatement. at this point a hard limiter is my best and only option other than kicking him to the curb.Every channel on the XR18 has a Compressor that can be setup as a hard limiter.
But you should try to address the issue at the source. Has your rhythm guitarist heard the recordings? Did He/She agree?
That's why I wrote the rest of that post haha.True. But they don’t always tell the whole truth. A board mix won't sound anything like it sounds in the house.
Similar story hear, using an X32 rack, recording to the internal SD cards. In our case we have a silent stage, so what comes out of the PA (with room influences) is it. Since we are DIY live mix, the capability to play back a previous gig performance from the multitrack has been gold, allowing us to sound check the mix in the room... not just close, but exactly... as if we were playing live. We also review the recordings from every gig on some reference systems, iteratively making little automation and mix tweaks.My band uses an approach similar to make. We use an X32Core controlled by a laptop and record 32 channels directly after the input gain controls to internal SD cards. Then I use a python program to extract the channels out of the SD cards into a Logic Pro project using a template I created for the band.
What I found from comparing Zoom H4N recordings of the gig in the room with the mixed recordings from the PA are:
Finally, I thrilled with my new FM9!
- Its impossible to judge what's coming out of the PA with what's in the room when you have stage amps and real drums, they're entirely different things
- What you hear in the recordings isn't what's heard in the room because of backline stage volume
- The recordings of my guitar are similar to what I hear in my IEMs when performing - we all have our own mix, not everyone uses IEMs there are wedges too.
- Stage volume is our enemy, but there are constraints that prevent us from going amp-less and MIDI drums
- I have had good success recording guitar tones with Helix, Quad Cortex and FM9, the modelers probably aren't the problem with thin, overly distorted tones
- It is possible to do a really good mix from the raw tracks of the SD card in Logic. I even correct a few mistakes, just like the pros do.
I've done a bunch of mixing multi-track recordings from SD cards off an X32 in the manner that I think you use. It's interesting that you had to make a Python program to do that. Are you referring to the fact that the X32 records a single 32-channel WAV file and you need to separate them? How computing intensive is your Python program?My band uses an approach similar to make. We use an X32Core controlled by a laptop and record 32 channels directly after the input gain controls to internal SD cards. Then I use a python program to extract the channels out of the SD cards into a Logic Pro project using a template I created for the band.
The Python program is simple enough. It's a simple GUI that uses PyQT6 to prompt for source and target folders. Then it splits the single 32 track wave file from the X32 and extracts only the channels we use, reorders them, converts a a number to stereo, and outputs separate wave file that can be imported in bulk into a Logic Pro project using a template for the band that has most of the typical mixing choices we need to make. It really speeds up the overall workflow.I've done a bunch of mixing multi-track recordings from SD cards off an X32 in the manner that I think you use. It's interesting that you had to make a Python program to do that. Are you referring to the fact that the X32 records a single 32-channel WAV file and you need to separate them? How computing intensive is your Python program?
I haven't used Logic, but Reaper has a built in function to Explode the multichannel audio into one-channel items. I'm sure your Python program is probably doing that just fine for you, but I figured I'd show how to do in Reaper in case it helps others.
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The board is "sound reinforcement". Unless you are running a silent stage, it is going to be missing what is coming off the stage in the mix. Individual mics to individual channels of multitrack recorder can be made to sound good if mixed properly for that, but a stereo feed off the board sounds worse the smaller the venue is due to the stage sound's relative size in the mix....Listening to anything off the board has been the surest way to zap my will to live after any gig.
I like that. It tickles my brain. Thanks for sharing. I can see the improved workflow. Mine requires opening a template, exploding, and dragging the files into the right tracks. Not difficult, but I can see the Python program really simplifying the process.The Python program is simple enough. It's a simple GUI that uses PyQT6 to prompt for source and target folders. Then it splits the single 32 track wave file from the X32 and extracts only the channels we use, reorders them, converts a a number to stereo, and outputs separate wave file that can be imported in bulk into a Logic Pro project using a template for the band that has most of the typical mixing choices we need to make. It really speeds up the overall workflow.
Logic will explode a multi-channel wave file too, but I wanted to automate most of the typical editing I would have to do with the result.