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[Tutorial] Move your presets from 15.01 to 16.01+

AlGrenadine

Axe-Master
Vendor
As i was discussing with @austinbuddy on an automatic way to convert 15.01 presets to 16.01 i've found a way to keep your basic amp settings untouched during the conversion, but it requires specific steps to be followed, so here is an attempt to describe the process:

  • 1st step : With your AxeFx III on firmware 15.01 (this is mandatory), export your banks/presets to a file, with Fractal Bot or FracTool or AxeEdit, whichever is better for you.
  • 2nd step : Flash AxeFx III firmware to 16.00. Yes 16.00, not 16.01+ yet.
  • 3rd step : Launch FracTool latest version, with Your AxeFX III 16.00 connected. You must see The AxeFx III ungrayed in FracTool.
  • 4th step : Drop your 15.01 bank syx file on the FracTool "harddrive" icon, you'll see a new window with the bank's presets.
  • 5th step : From this window, in top-left menu, select "Save to bank", select "AxeFx III" format, save to a new name, this will be your 16.00 bank file.
  • 6th step : Send the 16.00 bank to your AxeFx III, with FractalBot.
  • 7th step : Launch FracTool again, with your AxeFx III connected and still beeing on firmware 16.00. Select FracTool's "Amp resetter" tab at the top.
  • 8th step : Select the amp parameters you'd like to be kept on values they had before 16.00. @austinbuddy will maybe chime in for the recommended ones ;)
  • 9th step : Enter the presets range which need to have their amps blocks resetter with the previous step's parameters kept, hit apply, wait for this to finish. (the preset range is border,inclusive : 1-512 will handle presets from 1 to 512 included, "4,7,10-15" will handle preset 4,7 and from 10 to 15 included...)
  • 10th step : Flash AxeFx III firmware to 16.01+, restart AxeFx III etc... Then your AxeFx will probably fix the EQ range change introduced in 16.01 upon preset load and your parameters should have the same values they add in 15.01 (only the ones you selected at step 8).

It may or may not sound good, but it will sound just like if you had resetted your amp blocks manually and re-entered every parameter selected at step 8 manually.
 
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luke

Fractal Fanatic
First of all, I’d like to thank you for all the time and effort it must have taken to trouble shoot this and come to a working antidote.

I have not updated yet, so please understand this inquiry is based on that.

I understand you are freezing the amp settings in step 8 as though no update has occurred. So while something that was “5.25” remains as it was, has there been underlying architecture changes which would result in a different tone even though visually the settings have not changed?

I believe most users would like the ability to update but be able to maintain their tones unless they choose to reset their amps. Similar to how on the II there was a period where you could maintain the tones of firmwares 7-9 to your liking, while running a higher firmware for the other features.
 

AlGrenadine

Axe-Master
Vendor
I understand you are freezing the amp settings in step 8 as though no update has occurred. So while something that was “5.25” remains as it was, has there been underlying architecture changes which would result in a different tone even though visually the settings have not changed?
Yes
Hence my last comment in the op
 
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yek

Legend!
I believe most users would like the ability to update but be able to maintain their tones unless they choose to reset their amps. Similar to how on the II there was a period where you could maintain the tones of firmwares 7-9 to your liking, while running a higher firmware for the other features.

That's not possible, I think. Under-the-hood engine changes affect everything, regardless of the exposed parameter values.

And IIRC, the option on the II was limited, it applied to power amp modeling only and did not preserve the entire amp tone.
 

Dave Merrill

Fractal Fanatic
The gyrations I see around preserving existing tones while reaping the benefits of the new processing make me happy I'm not running this new beta, as wonderful as I'm sure it is. I'll wait til the smoke clears.
 

touch33

Inspired
What say thee, @austinbuddy? I’d like to try 16.00 but I loathe to trample over your hard work (and the great sounds) of “1,400 Naked Amps” running under 15.01…
 

austinbuddy

Fractal Fanatic
Vendor
What say thee, @austinbuddy? I’d like to try 16.00 but I loathe to trample over your hard work (and the great sounds) of “1,400 Naked Amps” running under 15.01…
If it were me, I’d wait until I can release a Cygnus update for Naked Amps which can’t and won’t happen until late summer... Firmware 15 still sounds great.
 
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