Orvillain
Power User
Okay, this isn't a 'the Axe is shit' thread so please don't take any offence 
I'm having some issues getting believeable tones going through a poweramp and out into my 4x12 cab. I've got an Egnater Tourmaster 4x12 with V30's. I've got the following:
Marshall 8008 Valvestate poweramp
Diezel D-Moll - power section is 100watt and uses KT77
100-watt Carlsbro 60's PA valve amp
So what I'm getting is pretty lifeless tones. There is no low-end thump to them, and they're not cutting through in a band mix. I was on the cusp of just selling the Axe, because if it cannot be my live solution as well as my recording solution, I'd be a bit miffed.
I've A/B'd my Diezel D-Moll and the Axe FX with one of the Dizzy models at low-ish bedroom volumes (actually still pretty damn loud to be honest!) and they were both very good. But this was through a different cab - a 2x12 ENGL with v30's. In blind tests, I couldn't really tell the difference between the feel and the tone and the thump. This was using the Marshall 8008.
So it seems there is something about the extra volume my band rehearses at (we play LOUD!) that is scuppering my tone at the moment. Trying to figure out what to do about it. Last practice I didn't use the Marshall, I used the FX return of the Diezel, but experienced the same thing. I'm not 100% sure what to do.
Now I understand it isn't a valve amp, and I understand it probably wont ever be exact. But any tips on how to get closer to the physical feel of my Diezel D-Moll? I want the same depth, the low-end trouser flapping stuff, and tones that cut through in the live mix. We have two guitarists, bassist, and a drummer that HITS THINGS VERY LOUD... so there is a lot to cut through. It didn't seem to be an EQ problem, it seemed like something to do with the power amplification. Don't really want to go and spend a load of cash on a valve power amp if it isn't going to address the problem.
I've not yet tried the Carlsbro PA head in a band situation. Was thinking to try that next week during practice.
In short - everything sounded kind of flat, the cab didn't sound like it was trying to jump half way across the room like it normally does, and the general feel of the thing was certainly of a modeller being turned up loud, sacrificing all of the amp like feel and tone that I can get quite easily at bedroom levels and DI'd into my computer audio interface.
I'm having some issues getting believeable tones going through a poweramp and out into my 4x12 cab. I've got an Egnater Tourmaster 4x12 with V30's. I've got the following:
Marshall 8008 Valvestate poweramp
Diezel D-Moll - power section is 100watt and uses KT77
100-watt Carlsbro 60's PA valve amp
So what I'm getting is pretty lifeless tones. There is no low-end thump to them, and they're not cutting through in a band mix. I was on the cusp of just selling the Axe, because if it cannot be my live solution as well as my recording solution, I'd be a bit miffed.
I've A/B'd my Diezel D-Moll and the Axe FX with one of the Dizzy models at low-ish bedroom volumes (actually still pretty damn loud to be honest!) and they were both very good. But this was through a different cab - a 2x12 ENGL with v30's. In blind tests, I couldn't really tell the difference between the feel and the tone and the thump. This was using the Marshall 8008.
So it seems there is something about the extra volume my band rehearses at (we play LOUD!) that is scuppering my tone at the moment. Trying to figure out what to do about it. Last practice I didn't use the Marshall, I used the FX return of the Diezel, but experienced the same thing. I'm not 100% sure what to do.
Now I understand it isn't a valve amp, and I understand it probably wont ever be exact. But any tips on how to get closer to the physical feel of my Diezel D-Moll? I want the same depth, the low-end trouser flapping stuff, and tones that cut through in the live mix. We have two guitarists, bassist, and a drummer that HITS THINGS VERY LOUD... so there is a lot to cut through. It didn't seem to be an EQ problem, it seemed like something to do with the power amplification. Don't really want to go and spend a load of cash on a valve power amp if it isn't going to address the problem.
I've not yet tried the Carlsbro PA head in a band situation. Was thinking to try that next week during practice.
In short - everything sounded kind of flat, the cab didn't sound like it was trying to jump half way across the room like it normally does, and the general feel of the thing was certainly of a modeller being turned up loud, sacrificing all of the amp like feel and tone that I can get quite easily at bedroom levels and DI'd into my computer audio interface.
