Wish Mesa Grid Slammer

[FractalAudio]

I'm not seeing the difference. The output buffer and the values of the supporting resistors in the Grid Slammer and TS9 are the same. And I don't see how the 100 ohm resistor would have any meaningful effect on the tone. It's really just a TS9 with two additional diodes.

Yup. The 100 ohm resistor would have minimal effect. You might see 100mV drop in the supply rail during very loud transients but the effect of that would likely be inaudible.

 

[2204JCM]

No. Lots of drive pedals are ripoffs. It's a pet peeve of mine. Copy a Tube Screamer, change a resistor value, put in a different box and charge $300 for it.

Don’t forget the tube screamer is a modified boss od-1

 

[Aivoryuk]

Yeah, I have that one. I used to use Mercurial stuff before I had any Fractal gear. I agree that their Grid Slammer is awesome.

When I was getting back into guitar playing - I was using the Mecuriall stuff - I liked the u530 soo much I went and bought a Engl Ironball.

I then eventually switched to Fractal and have never looked back

 

[cole lewis]

My personal advice. Have confidence in yourselves in using the insane tools we have in the axe to create your own custom pedals.

The amount of ways you can take any of the TS models and modify them is virtually endless.

For example look at the Fortin modified OD9. They tell you what the mods they did are. Change the diodes to red LEDs and more output level.

Personally I just pull up the OD808 and it sounds... Just like you expect. I feel like we guitar players use our eyes so much.

When I was a teenager I bought multiple TS pedals having been convinced by people online the “perfect” boost will give me this ultimate metal tone. Pure nonsense. They all do the same thing. For like 20 years everyone stuck a SD1, TS9 or TS808/OD808 in front of their high gain heads and had no complaints. Now there is one billion small pedal builders online convincing you they have the one perfect boost pedal.

 

[cole lewis]

I literally have this Protone pedal from when they were still “new”. What an absolutely hilarious scam.

I bought the Misha pedal he made years ago in the grey box. All he did was increase the volume and tone range to musically unusable levels and put it in a box that lasted like 2 weeks on the outside. Now the pedal doesn’t even function anymore even when I used the OD808 I have like 100x more and it still works just fine.

It was god like 300 something dollars.

Point being though. An OD808 or a TS9 is going to do the job just as you expect it to. You’re better off changing the pickups in your guitar or your IR choice than going through 100 boost pedals like so many metal guitarists on YouTube do.

Cliff gives us the option to make our own custom pedals and then we get people asking for tube screamer clones I really would be annoyed if I was him.

When the real grid slammer came out any hype over that one seemed to die in like a week in favor of probably another tube screamer clone. Maybe this time with a revolutionary bass control.

 

[My name is mud]

Cliff gives us the option to make our own custom pedals and then we get people asking for tube screamer clones I really would be annoyed if I was him.

Maybe because some guy didn’t know what the “red diode” do.

For the rest, every od got a little something different. True with the axe and all his possibilities this is not something really… but when you play with a tube head it’s interesting to try many of them and found the one you prefer.

If someone really like this pedal, and don’t want to buy it having an axe, it’s legit to ask for it. If you don’t have the knowledge and didn’t know what to tweak to have it. Musicians are not all pedals builder.

 

[holgar]

Ok!
How to recreate a
Barber Direct Drive SS
with the Fractal Tools, please?

I have used this pedal for years and it sounded better than all the others I have tried.
"Barber adjustable phono style recovery stage- Most of our op-amp based overdrive pedals use a cool old style phonograph circuit to recover the frequencies lost in the overdrive stage, this worked great for vinyl and now works great for guitar overdrive!", they say.

To have it in the FM3 would really make me very happy.

 

[unix-guy]

Ok!
How to recreate a
Barber Direct Drive SS
with the Fractal Tools, please?

I have used this pedal for years and it sounded better than all the others I have tried.
"Barber adjustable phono style recovery stage- Most of our op-amp based overdrive pedals use a cool old style phonograph circuit to recover the frequencies lost in the overdrive stage, this worked great for vinyl and now works great for guitar overdrive!", they say.

To have it in the FM3 would really make me very happy.

I don't have the SS model, but an original hand-lettered version from the early days.

That was the pedal I was always going back to.

I'd happily send it to Cliff if he wanted to model it (just like my Nobels ODR-1!)

 

[jaycal6]

The Barber drive pedals are outstanding. Those were always my go to pedals after trying dozens and dozens.

 

[unix-guy]

I don't have the SS model, but an original hand-lettered version from the early days.

That was the pedal I was always going back to.

I'd happily send it to Cliff if he wanted to model it (just like my Nobels ODR-1!)

I just found a post where David Barber actually shares the link to the schematic:

http://www.barberelectronics.com/Compact_Direct_Drive_service_schematic.pdf

I always tended to prefer mine with the Fat engaged (Tone pulled up).

From this thread where he posted some great info on the pedal:

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/i...t-drive-a-bluesbreaker-based-circuit.2204818/

 

[State of Epicicity]

I just found a post where David Barber actually shares the link to the schematic:

http://www.barberelectronics.com/Compact_Direct_Drive_service_schematic.pdf

I always tended to prefer mine with the Fat engaged (Tone pulled up).

From this thread where he posted some great info on the pedal:

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/i...t-drive-a-bluesbreaker-based-circuit.2204818/

@FractalAudio

 

[pedalbuilder]

Will you suggest or tell me change the number of diodes to what or based on what since there’re too many options & diodes types that I can change it to?

Here's a block preset for the Grid Slammer. The values for R19 and R14 differ between the TS808 and TS9, with the Grid Slammer using the TS9's values, so the block uses the Valve Screamer VS9.