ICONS Future

[Anton Karelin]

I watched an old video recently of someone dialing the Metallica tone in the USA IIC++ model in Axe-Fx II. I was so surprised and impressed that I've been wanting to try it for a while now but I'll never afford the hardware. I hope they continue updating the plugin and I'll give that model a trial run when the Boogie pack comes.

Share link to this video, please

 

[YevhenF]

Share link to this video, please

 

[vangrieg]

And a temperament question.
I can see being righteously pissed off about it, and just not wanting to go there.

But they already went there releasing Icons, which I bet was cracked in a few days like everything else.

 

[Dave Merrill]

But they already went there releasing Icons, which I bet was cracked in a few days like everything else.

More like dipped a toe in than fully "went there". An Axe with only Fender amps is a pretty different offering than what it actually is.

 

[FuzzyAce]

hackers gonna hack
it's wiggidy wack
smokin' crack to crack
stackin' up tones they lack
cuz they jacked in fact
but FAS gonna take it back
protect they secret stash
like sauce in a big mac
plannin' for them sneak attacks
from a droolin' hyena pack

 

[Sebastian_PL]

Nowadays, almost all software is pirated. It's a real shame, but I think that despite everything, it still generates profits for the owners.

 

[vangrieg]

Nowadays, almost all software is pirated. It's a real shame, but I think that despite everything, it still generates profits for the owners.

Of course it does. You just expect some percentage of lost revenue in your planning and go ahead.

And people who use pirated software aren’t even always lost revenue because they wouldn’t buy the product anyway for a million reasons, from religious (“paying for software is silly” kind of stuff) to the mere fact that in many countries even a hundred bucks is a ton of money and they just can’t afford it.

Some people use pirated versions as some kind of extended trial, too.

There are of course also those who can afford to pay and just prefer free riding, but that’s not 100%.

In Fractal’s case, of course they also need to consider potential cannibalization of hardware sales, so it’s more complicated. They may lose some, but also gain some by offering their stuff to people who don’t want hardware.

Anyways, just hope they’ll overcome this reluctance one day. I’d really love to have a plugin version as a backup/super portable rig.

 

[FuzzyAce]

to the mere fact that in many countries even a hundred bucks is a ton of money and they just can’t afford it.

Huh. Yet they can afford the device said software needs? Or did they jack that too?
And I'd be careful not to equate 'poor' as more likely to steal.

 

[Randalljax]

Of course it does. You just expect some percentage of lost revenue in your planning and go ahead.

And people who use pirated software aren’t even always lost revenue because they wouldn’t buy the product anyway for a million reasons, from religious (“paying for software is silly” kind of stuff) to the mere fact that in many countries even a hundred bucks is a ton of money and they just can’t afford it.

Some people use pirated versions as some kind of extended trial, too.

There are of course also those who can afford to pay and just prefer free riding, but that’s not 100%.

In Fractal’s case, of course they also need to consider potential cannibalization of hardware sales, so it’s more complicated. They may lose some, but also gain some by offering their stuff to people who don’t want hardware.

Anyways, just hope they’ll overcome this reluctance one day. I’d really love to have a plugin version as a backup/super portable rig.

I predict since this the chance of a full featured AXFX plug in decreased by 70%
Cliff already said he really did not want to do it for the reasons stated and pretty much the internet proved him right

I think Icons will continue but it will be select amps and limited effects as the first release

 

[YevhenF]

I predict since this the chance of a full featured AXFX plug in decreased by 70%
Cliff already said he really did not want to do it for the reasons stated and pretty much the internet proved him right

I think Icons will continue but it will be select amps and limited effects as the first release

Well it was directly stated that ICONS is not a software version of Axe-Fx so it gives me hope that it will continue.

 

[YevhenF]

And it gives us enough flexibility to not be worried that it lacks something that Axe-Fx has.

 

[Dave Merrill]

Huh. Yet they can afford the device said software needs? Or did they jack that too?
And I'd be careful not to equate 'poor' as more likely to steal.

Which device is that, a guitar and a computer?

 

[FuzzyAce]

Which device is that, a guitar and a computer?

Well, computer was what I meant within the context of software. But guitar too.

 

[sprint]

You just expect some percentage of lost revenue in your planning and go ahead

Retailers call it "shrink" (an unavoidable cost of doing biz)

 

[rossipedia]

"I'll just steal [X] because I can't afford it" is a hell of a take

 

[Rogerthat]

And what does this mean, no future ICONS updates? If every plugin developer stopped at just one plugin after their first hack, the plugin industry would've died. No one is afraid of hackers these days.

Hi popstar

 

[Rogerthat]

Cracked software is exhausting. Obviously Fractal knew it’d get cracked at some point but many people are still willing to pay for it.

You don’t need an official statement that Icons will live on. That’s just silly. Fractal doesn’t leave their customers high and dry.

 

[YevhenF]

Hi popstar

I'm not Popstar. But I saw this guy on TGP too.

 

[YevhenF]

I just never had a Fractal product, I had no reasons to come here and then this plugin came and I decided to create the account. It doesn't mean I'm some guy you know.

 

[steveforward]