how do you control high end when going real power amp and cabinet ?

[CT76]

thank you everyone but as I stated filter block cutting high around 9400 has done the trick

 

[Lodeman]

my issue isn't low-end its high end

The IC deals with high end as well. I am using a Jensen C12K speaker and the correct High Freq parameter is pretty low compared with most of the curves available. Adjusting the HF parameter of the IC may help you.

 

[Smellytele]

When we're talking about using standard speaker cabs (not FRFR or full-range drivers), it ALL comes down to the choice of speaker.

I think most experienced gear nuts agree the speaker has a bigger effect on your tone than the amp or guitar.

Getting a powerful clear tone that isn't harsh or buzzy largely comes down to finding a speaker that rolls off in the right spot for your amp/guitar and desired tone. But, sure, if your speaker has too much high end, you can always cut it in the Axe.

This 100%. The right speaker can absolutely make all the difference. My Bogner GF absolutely came alive when I paired it with a vintage EV SRO alnico. No other speaker or combination of speakers comes even close to what that speaker does for that amp. In fact, here's my less than one week old cab that I had made just for my SRO to go under my Bogner. (this has zero to do with the rest of the thread, I just love sharing pics)

 

[BBN]

No idea what that pedal is an attempt to replicate.

How cute.

I'll tell you - for a cheap back up pedal (2 channels, built in cab sim), it's very good.

 

[Thomas Obester]

oh man, I tried these Man-O-War speakers.
Worst speaker I ever tried and I tried many different brands including all from celestions with dozen of different tube amps.
Maybe try to switch the speakers first, try for example Celestion Alnico Creams or UK Mesa V30´s and I am pretty sure you will leave filter block out of equation.

 

[Ron_R]

Just another example that the Fractal units aren't plug and play, and most people have to invest some time to learn how to make it work for them. Which it can and will. Gloriously so.

 

[sprint]

Just another example that the Fractal units aren't plug and play, and most people have to invest some time to learn how to make it work for them. Which it can and will. Gloriously so.

Pretty simple fix (9400hz cut) given all the brouhaha.

 

[Ron_R]

Pretty simple fix (9400hz cut) given all the brouhaha.

No doubt, but you actually have to have that knowledge, or be willing to seek it out and try it. It's not just turning knobs on the front of an amp.

 

[Intoodeep1113]

I prefer making a high cut in that region in the cab block when needed. Saves me from adding another block/DSP

 

[Stratman68]

Nope. I think it's better to have no knowledge, don't try to find out what's wrong and then go on a forum and trash the product. so much more fun

 

[sprint]

I prefer making a high cut in that region in the cab block when needed. Saves me from adding another block/DSP

Indeed, and that's where the totally-flat factory IR comes in handy with a real cab - can have all the cab block features to use with your real cab without effectively applying an IR on top of your real cab which, imo, generally sounds bad.

 

[CT76]

Indeed, and that's where the totally-flat factory IR comes in handy with a real cab - can have all the cab block features to use with your real cab without effectively applying an IR on top of your real cab which, imo, generally sounds bad.

Is that what that’s for? I wish fm3 had 2 cab blocks ugh

 

[Ron_R]

Nope. I think it's better to have no knowledge, don't try to find out what's wrong and then go on a forum and trash the product. so much more fun

The sarcasm is strong with this one...

 

[CT76]

I never trashed the product just noticed something randomly in a comparison of units and came to the forum for help, but being frustrated and bi polar doesn’t help

I do appreciate the ones that did help

 

[sprint]

Is that what that’s for? I wish fm3 had 2 cab blocks ugh

That's what I use it for - maybe there are other uses, dunno. Not sure about FM3, but in Ax3 I only use 1 cab block with input set to stereo and 2 "totally-flat" IRs panned hard L/R into my stereo ss p.a. + 2x 112 cabs w v30s.

 

[guitare maniac]

I never trashed the product just noticed something randomly in a comparison of units and came to the forum for help, but being frustrated and bi polar doesn’t help

I do appreciate the ones that did help

we don't know what power amp you use you don't post your preset and a recording how do you want what help

 

[CT76]

we don't know what power amp you use you don't post your preset and a recording how do you want what help

I already stated, a quilter pro block 200 in the return, but again both units into same source with different results, its not the cab speakers cords, amp its in the units. Also a recording isn't going to pick it up, you have to be there

 

[guitare maniac]

I already stated, a quilter pro block 200 in the return, but again both units into same source with different results, its not the cab speakers cords, amp its in the units. Also a recording isn't going to pick it up, you have to be there

I have a marshall 9100 power amp with mesa cab all the amp sounds great not understand your bad sound post your preset

 

[CT76]

I have a marshall 9100 power amp with mesa cab all the amp sounds great not understand your bad sound post your preset

I already got help, but thank you. the filter low pass after amp high cut around 9400 did the trick

 

[Jim DeSchamp]

I had a 1986 JCM 800. It was VERY much a "shrill" amp until it was at stupid loud levels. This was with my 4x12 loaded with celestion 85's which are a relatively dark speaker. I can't tell if you're honestly seeking help. IF so, post your preset so people can see how you have it set up. I LOVE my Axe III and FM3 because I can get the great tone I want at reasonable levels.

Presence at 0 and Treble at 0-2, Bass at 10 was the way I ran mine with a TS power soak that I finally blew up.