Help! Noise issue with new FM3

Egraham93 said:
The guitar is quiet with the gate on the inly
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The guitar is not "quiet", it is the gate that is preventing the noise from the guitar to pass through. If you want to analyze the cause of the noise, you must completely disable the noise gate

Egraham93 said:
Time it makes noise is on the decay of mutes notes or palm mutes. That’s the only issue I’m having. I can’t get a clean decay no matter what gate setting I use other than that it’s quiet.
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That is normal behavior. When the note decays after the palm muting, the gate is still open. Then the noise is heard when the guitar signal decays below the noise level.

That issue has been thee since the invention of distortion. You have to learn to live with it, and find ways to minimize it
 
Hi all .... just some thoughts here ...

So far some of the suggested fixes (and everyone is trying to help!) have been about trying to find out what in the environment is causing this. My thought is - take the FM3, your guitar, and amp/laptop somewhere else - say to work, to a rehersal room, and see if you get the noise there.

It's a process of isolation - if the current at home environment might be the issue, then take the gear somewhere else and see what happens. If it is still noisy somewhere else, then the issue could be the guitar, the cable, the amp, but at least you will have removed your current house as a variable.

Hope this helps?

Cheers

Doogz
 
Had some bad interference at the place I used to live. Noise and even radio came through when playing and recording on different guitars and gear. This was when I had the AX8. One day the bulbs where just lighting at 50%, fridge and freezer turned off etc. Electrical work in the street fixed it - and my guitarnoise problem improved after this. When I moved to a new place, it all went away.
Like ppl say here, it could be intereference...or the actual amp can be quite noisy.
 
Piing said:
The guitar is not "quiet", it is the gate that is preventing the noise from the guitar to pass through. If you want to analyze the cause of the noise, you must completely disable the noise gate



That is normal behavior. When the note decays after the palm muting, the gate is still open. Then the noise is heard when the guitar signal decays below the noise level.

That issue has been thee since the invention of distortion. You have to learn to live with it, and find ways to minimize it
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I’ve literally never have had an issue with getting a noise free decay when playing heavy tones. Nor have I had the issue with real amps at my house. So to me it’s not normal st all. I can literally play a 6505 with a savage drive at my crib with a ton a of gain and the decimator gives me a completely noise free decay.

I just wanted to see if there was a way to possibly remedy this and unfortunately everything that has been mentioned besides the ground wire to water pipe hasn’t worked.

I’m sure it is EMI or something but I’ve just never had this much of an issue with any gear . I love the tones, it’s just to annoying to even play through it anymore because of all of the excess noise that comes though when doing any mutes. I play mostly metal stuff so having a tight decay is kinda important. Besides this one issue everything is great.

anywho I appreciate everyone’s advice and all the time everyone took to try and help.

I’ll do some tinkering and some research and see it I can somehow resolve this issue
 
Call an electrician dude! Even though I was advocating you want to make sure it's safe, there's a good chance he may say the separate ground wire would be ok. Running the wire is easy, and you're not dealing with any live electricity, so it's totally DIY. You just need the wire, and a clamp-style fitting that attaches to the pipe, and it has a place where you attach the wire, and tighten up a screw to hold it in place. Real simple.
 
Egraham93 said:
I’ve literally never have had an issue with getting a noise free decay when playing heavy tones. Nor have I had the issue with real amps at my house. So to me it’s not normal st all. I can literally play a 6505 with a savage drive at my crib with a ton a of gain and the decimator gives me a completely noise free decay.

I just wanted to see if there was a way to possibly remedy this and unfortunately everything that has been mentioned besides the ground wire to water pipe hasn’t worked.

I’m sure it is EMI or something but I’ve just never had this much of an issue with any gear . I love the tones, it’s just to annoying to even play through it anymore because of all of the excess noise that comes though when doing any mutes. I play mostly metal stuff so having a tight decay is kinda important. Besides this one issue everything is great.

anywho I appreciate everyone’s advice and all the time everyone took to try and help.

I’ll do some tinkering and some research and see it I can somehow resolve this issue
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Maybe this FM3 unit is a dud? I mean, if you have no issue with all the other gear, calling an electrician to re-wire your place is not the solution. Get in touch with Fractal and see if you could send it in for checkup?
 
bgeorge said:
Maybe this FM3 unit is a dud? I mean, if you have no issue with all the other gear, calling an electrician to re-wire your place is not the solution. Get in touch with Fractal and see if you could send it in for checkup?
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Have you tried his patch?
 
bgeorge said:
Maybe this FM3 unit is a dud? I mean, if you have no issue with all the other gear, calling an electrician to re-wire your place is not the solution. Get in touch with Fractal and see if you could send it in for checkup?
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Have you read the whole thread? No one said "re-wire his whole place," or re-wire anything. It's about running a simple ground wire to stop the EMI, which I'm pretty sure has been narrowed down as the cause of the issue. And the suggestion was calling an electrician for his peace of mind that it's safe.
 
Piing said:
Have you tried his patch?
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Yes, I have - quiet. Tested with Fishman active PU and Gibson passive. I even turned the input gate down to -65dB, nothing out of the ordinary on my unit. Changed a few IRs around, but it all sounds good to me.

My FM3 sits on my desk, next to monitor, studio speakers, audio interface, HXFX and my trusted GM40DL -
My amp and speakers are powered house line, the FM3 and HX go through a surge protector. Nothing fancy.

I've had issues like this before, one HX unit was so noisy and after testing cables, positions, guitars, speakers, rooms, buildings, audio interfaces, I just replaced it for a new one and et voila noise was gone.
 
TSJMajesty said:
Have you read the whole thread? No one said "re-wire his whole place," or re-wire anything. It's about running a simple ground wire to stop the EMI, which I'm pretty sure has been narrowed down as the cause of the issue. And the suggestion was calling an electrician for his peace of mind that it's safe.
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I read the threat, and to me the most obvious culprit seems the unit. They get shipped and banged around during shipping, something coming loose or a contact dislodging somewhere is always a possibility. Hard to say. If no other gear shows these effects, I find an interference unlikely. May well be, but I'd get in touch with the manufacturer and see, if they can check it out for me, before I pull any wires or do more EMI voodoo dances.
 
Just an update for everybody. I tried it at my buddies and it did the same thing through his frfr. His stomp also did it but we were able
To tame it with the same gate setting on my fm3 for some reason. Through an actual cab and power amp he let me use at his house there was none of that noise at all
 
Egraham93 said:
Through an actual cab and power amp he let me use at his house there was none of that noise at all
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This suggests that there may be a solution in using another IR and adjusting cab parameters. My first approach because it’s low hanging fruit, would be to try one of the reflection-free IRs Jay Mitchell is giving away. I suggest them not for ideological reasons but rather because they are different from other IRs and trying them could be revealing.

Since Jay didn’t have any conditions with these IRs which unlike previous ones he didn’t want people to share, I’ll attach them here as I’ve already trimmed and converted them to .syx format.
 

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