Gipsy swing tone matching

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cadeb

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Hi all,

i'm quite interested in jumping on an fxII gear soon, and i'm just wondering if the tone matching of a gipsy swing rythm guitar had ever been done?
Though it seems that the axe fxII wasn't properly designed for such an acoustic purpose, does it fly that way as well?
However there are very few examples, to few to really be convinced, of an axe fx II used with a bass, i've never heard a "gipsy pompe" flowing out from the axe...

Just curious to ear it in fact..

Thanks
 
am' I really the only curious one or must i conclude that the Axe Fx II doesn't fit in Django 's suit?
 
The results you get depend heavily on what you start with. The Axe-Fx does a superb job of matching one acoustic guitar to another. If you have a solid-body guitar with a piezo pickup, the results can be equally superb.

But if you're trying to turn your solid-body's magnetic pickups into an acoustic tone, the results can be okay for live use, but it won't fool anyone who knows what an acoustic guitar is supposed to sound like.

I have an Alvarez AD90SCK with stock piezo electronics. Plugged in, it sounds okay, but just okay. I tone-matched it to a Tommy Emmanuel recording, and...wow.
 
Great! i really look forward to ear that!
Bad news, after the axe fx, i will have to buy another guitar...
Happy! :biggrin-new:
 
Ha no. I'm on it! Sorry was distracted and now I'm just starting to click the "Quick links/subscribed thread" button to see threads I've been involved in.
I will post tomorrow, I promise!
 
cadeb said:
Great! i really look forward to ear that!
Bad news, after the axe fx, i will have to buy another guitar...
Happy! :biggrin-new:
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What guitar(s) are you using now? If you have a hollow body with a metal bridge (Tune-o-matic or Gretsch bar style) you might look into an ebony or rosewood bridge saddle to get closer to a vintage arch top or Selmer/Maccaferri sound.
 
A to the T said:
Ha no. I'm on it! Sorry was distracted and now I'm just starting to click the "Quick links/subscribed thread" button to see threads I've been involved in.
I will post tomorrow, I promise!
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No worries, wasn't meant to be rude, you have the right to live a life::mrgreen
 
MaxTwang said:
What guitar(s) are you using now? If you have a hollow body with a metal bridge (Tune-o-matic or Gretsch bar style) you might look into an ebony or rosewood bridge saddle to get closer to a vintage arch top or Selmer/Maccaferri sound.
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Are you referring to this kind of stuff : bridgesaddle.JPG ?

Which means that the Axe FXII could be so sensitive that it could respond to a such slight modification on the guitar as this bridge saddle?

If so, i might have to reevaluate my needs, cause i'm not sure that my ears could get the difference...
Am I about to jump into rocket science launching with the axe?
 
Indeed, the electric Jem genes are bleeding from your Django style soundclip.
The soundclip i've heard from a piezo impulse are giving this woody feeling from the axe fxII.

Now with the latest post of Max Twang on this thread, i'm getting pretty much curious to listen to the soundclip of a wood saddle mounted on an electric hollow body guitar...

Does anybody who has tried this modification really felt the difference through an axeFX modeling of an acoustic sound, compared without the wood saddle?
I must say that if this guitar modification, which i consider really slight, shows any difference on the same axe fx preset, i'm pretty sure that i'll never need another gear anymore because i was far,far away of thinking that a such precision could ever be achieved
 
cadeb said:
Are you referring to this kind of stuff : View attachment 17901 ?

Which means that the Axe FXII could be so sensitive that it could respond to a such slight modification on the guitar as this bridge saddle?
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Not quite that. Those are still metal saddles.


cadeb said:
If so, i might have to reevaluate my needs, cause i'm not sure that my ears could get the difference...
Am I about to jump into rocket science launching with the axe?
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Rocket science, maybe...but not fantasy. :) If your ears don't hear a difference, the Axe won't change that.


cadeb said:
I must say that if this guitar modification, which i consider really slight, shows any difference on the same axe fx preset, i'm pretty sure that i'll never need another gear anymore because i was far,far away of thinking that a such precision could ever be achieved
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If there is an audible difference, you'll be able to hear the difference through any competent acoustic amp.
 
Well, I actually play a vg99 resonator cosm model through this patch but I only posted the sounclip using a mainstream electric as this is what most people have. If you have a vg99 then I can send you that patch. My Robert Johnson one is fantastic as well.
 
Rex said:
Not quite that. Those are still metal saddles.
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Ok, was about to get perplex Rex. relief...( and rhyme)

Rex said:
Rocket science, maybe...but not fantasy. :) If your ears don't hear a difference, the Axe won't change that.
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If my ears were exceptional i would either get paid as a sound engineer or be a drug detection dog.



A to the T said:
Well, I actually play a vg99 resonator cosm model through this patch but I only posted the sounclip using a mainstream electric as this is what most people have. If you have a vg99 then I can send you that patch. My Robert Johnson one is fantastic as well.
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Unfortunately not, but i really do appreciate your kindness by taking care of my request so nicely.

Thank you very much A to the T
 
cadeb said:
Are you referring to this kind of stuff : <img src="http://forum.fractalaudio.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17901"/> ? Which means that the Axe FXII could be so sensitive that it could respond to a such slight modification on the guitar as this bridge saddle? If so, i might have to reevaluate my needs, cause i'm not sure that my ears could get the difference... Am I about to jump into rocket science launching with the axe?
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My suggestion was not Axe-specific, changing to a wood saddle with the Axe or amp will change the sound of a hollow body. I have an old ES-175 and a Johnny Smith, both came with wood saddles, and I have changed to TOMs (like your pic) for a more modern jazz tone - to me these guitars sound dramatically different with wood vs TOM bridges. A wood saddle will give you a more vintage tone, floating pickup even more.

Here's an example of a archtop bridge with a wood saddle: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges....html?actn=100101&xst=1&xsr=0192&tab=Pictures

It won't turn an ES-175 into a Maccaferri/Selmer but it will be closer.
 
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