Just backup your presets, install the latest firmware and see how your patches sound. You can always go back if you think it is too much trouble. You will have to tweak, however, with the latest updates it is much quicker to get tones tweaked or even start from scratch. It is much easier to get great Metal tones even the ones you mention, with very little effort by starting from scratch. With the newer firmware, you should rarely need to tweak advanced parameters now, including the bias excursion settings. Also, the low cut starting with 20.0 is no longer really needed. I still do it in the cab block at about 90hz, but that is really a great fix, plus the latest beta has the most incredible fix to the input gate and gets rid of the clicky fuzziness of the gate, now.I am on Firmware 15.0 because updating ruined my tones for live metal band. Excursion bias or some such... I used several GOTs and enjoyed them on FM9, which is up to date. (I use it for a different rock cover band). What would I have to do to my presets to keep Firmware 14-15 tones in order to get back up to date? I used to love new firmware day, now only lamentations. And why can't I just import and tweak these gifts on any firmware ?
Thor
Either that or we ask Via, Petrucci, Def Leppard, Tosin, etc. to dial in their presets for firmware 15...and/or all firmwares, to make sure everyone is happy.You're not great at dialing in the sound your want so all of us should have to use outdated firmware? lol
Maybe, but not far. He specifically asked for the presets to be compatible with prior firmware. The presets were collected from artists.Seems we're stretching what he said/asked a bit here now.
Maybe, but not far. He specifically asked for the presets to be compatible with prior firmware. The presets were collected from artists.
So who is going to update them for prior firmware?
The OP said he IS using them on his FM9. But wants them compatible with Axe 3. So obviously he doesn't want to put in that work himself. He also stated that he already knows what he would need to do to make his presets compatible with FW 21.
I'm calling a spade a spade - the OP screams of entitlement.
Again, a question. Not requesting anything.The name of the thread is 'why only firmware 21'
"And why can't I just import and tweak these gifts on any firmware ?"Again, a question. Not requesting anything.
How is it a request?"And why can't I just import and tweak these gifts on any firmware ?"
How is this question not a request?
Because older firmware is not aware of the possible parameters in the new firmware, what is it to do with them?And why can't I just import and tweak these gifts on any firmware ?
I've seen others like it, but now I see that he added a parameter (master bias excursion) to kind of roll back the Cygnus changes. I will try out all major updates to see what I like. The problem I have is, playing songs by the best metal bands... Sabbath, Metallica, Pantera, Opeth, Mastodon, Sepultura, Alice In Chains, Sevendust, etc. all have quite different and very identifiable guitar sounds so I have a separate preset on every song...
Cover band player here. Each song has its own preset and the tones (and guitars used) can vary quite a bit from song to song. And I've had people in the audience compliment me on the fact that my guitar parts don't sound the same on every song. Many of the other local cover bands sound the same all night long. Boring, IMO. And in my local market if you want to get paid for playing, you play cover tunes....Just wondering if people in the audience even notice it? When I use to play in a cover band I never spent the time to match guitar tones. I was too lazy and wouldn't have known how to do it anyway.
I use 1-3 tones for a cover gig. Does the 25 year old girl screaming for "Mr. Brightside" all night, care if the tone is accurate. Not a chance.Just wondering if people in the audience even notice it? When I use to play in a cover band I never spent the time to match guitar tones. I was too lazy and wouldn't have known how to do it anyway.
I've been using Fractal units since 2008, I can make some great presets. They aren't vastly different from each other, mostly blending Angle Severe and Thordendal Modern amps and sometimes USA Lead. As I progress, the preset making evolves, so layouts change but nobody has ever complained. Occasionally band mates do, about changing levels, but I iron it out. With death and progressive metal, we're playing for our own satisfaction.Just curious, typically when you see a band live (playing original music) the guitars are going to be pretty similar throughout the show. Is it jarring to the audience to hear vastly different guitar tones from song to song? Has anyone ever comment on that to you, like they appreciate the consistency to the original tone?
Just wondering if people in the audience even notice it? When I use to play in a cover band I never spent the time to match guitar tones. I was too lazy and wouldn't have known how to do it anyway.