GlennO
Axe-Master
It's not intended to sound like doubled guitars (in spite of the name). Like the various pitch and chorus effects that come up in these discussions, its purpose to add stereo imaging to a mono track.
It's not intended to sound like doubled guitars (in spite of the name). Like the various pitch and chorus effects that come up in these discussions, its purpose to add stereo imaging to a mono track.
Hmmm, ok.
ADT is an effect pioneered by the Beatles. It's primitive by today's standards, but it's still a highly prized effect because of the vintage vibe. The key feature in the Waves plugin that emulates it is the subtle randomization of the chorus-style pitch modulation.
Yes something like this is what I expect.
The key is to do waveshaping on one side. For example, use different amps left and right. But...these days, mono summing isn't as important as it used to be. In a live setting you probably wouldn't use a stereo preset if the audience is hearing mono. For recorded music, even phones have stereo speakers these days and that's enough separation to avoid comb filtering.
The Haas pan effect. The changes in panning are a psychoacoustic side-effect of the variable doubling delay time switching around the static one. The two tracks are panned hard left and hard right. The one that arrives at your ears first is interpreted as the location of the thing, as the later one arriving a few ms behind is interpreted as an echo. Might be better to put the outputs through two amps set differently, to make it less likely to be interpreted as an echo....
I did an ADT sim last year sometime. Used the LFO to de-regularize the sweep of a through-zero flanger with zero feedback. Worked pretty well, but again, would likely work better before two amps than after one....
Yeah, I figured it was Haas.
That's right, it's just a through-zero flanger. The key to get that vintage vibe is the right kind of randomness for the tape speed. Unfortunately, the Axe-FX doesn't really have a good LFO for that. You can put a LP filter on a random LFO, but that's not as good as a proper continuous-slope random LFO.
At the time, we had a nifty LFO wave display that Cliff had just added. With some judicious poking at speed and depth in the flanger from the LFOs, I managed to get some fairly unpredictable flange action.... I'll have to dig up the preset and take another look at it....
Yep, I'm very familiar with how to implement the kind of LFO you need for what you're trying to do. It's a very specific kind of random behavior. You'll find it in the UltraChorus effect in Omnisphere
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Different amps and cabs on each side help, but they don't eliminate the problem. Just my opinion, but I think mono compatibility is still important and will always be. A good mix will never suffer when collapsed to mono.
