ChristThePhone
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I like running the rhythm guitar stereo to achieve width while keeping solo guitar centered.
Even with some delay, it will still feel like everything is coming more or less from the same place in the middle although it might feel wide. Even the smallest EQ difference between the two sides will give different signals in the two sides, so it will no longer be mono (and therefore, it is stereo per definition). So from there, the question is only how wide a stereo feel you desire.Not sure if simple EQing would make a signal stereo. The human brain calculates direction and distance to the source based on the time differences between the left and the right ear receiving the same signal. This means you need at least some delay to achieve a stereo effect. For this reason the cab block support short delay dials.
Not sure if simple EQing would make a signal stereo. The human brain calculates direction and distance to the source based on the time differences between the left and the right ear receiving the same signal. This means you need at least some delay to achieve a stereo effect. For this reason the cab block support short delay dials.
Even with some delay, it will still feel like everything is coming more or less from the same place in the middle although it might feel wide. Even the smallest EQ difference between the two sides will give different signals in the two sides, so it will no longer be mono (and therefore, it is stereo per definition). So from there, the question is only how wide a stereo feel you desire.
Stereo just means that the signals in the two sides are different - even by the slightest amount. It is basically binary, if the signal in the two sides are identical, it is mono, otherwise it is stereo.
But that is probably not the effect you are looking for. You seem to be looking for some sort of double-tracking simulation, and yes for that you need a bit of delay as well as some EQ differences. The enhancer block is great for this purpose. But this is me guessing. What exactly do you mean, when you say stereo?
To me true stereo is two guitar players panned hard left and right. We can do all sorts of tricks to emulate that sound with one guitar player. But we will never get there completely, and the harder we try, the more phase cancellation issues, we get. So it will always be a balance.
That’s the same as running both guitars mono and not panning them, the original topic of this whole thing.So let's say we both run stereo (or only me who plays most of the rhythm), would not that give the audience in the edges a better experience and make them have an audio experience that is more similar to the people in the center?
Did you watch that Dave Rat video?That’s the same as running both guitars mono and not panning them...
I saw it a long time ago. But the issue here is Hansen is describing putting both guitars in “stereo” for the purpose of having the same thing in each side.Did you watch that Dave Rat video?
agreed. but i think for the most part, from what i can gather from various statements, Hansen would be going "stereo" but sending the exact same signal left and right. if it is different, then great, but various times within this thread it seemed to be the same signal.there are a lot of advantages to sending two distinct sources to each side of the house, even when those two sources are carrying substantially the same signal
Agreed 100%so my point is if you send the exact same signal left and right, it's the same as sending a single mono signal. some people are still calling it "stereo" just because they use 2 output cables, regardless of what's actually in each signal.
Depends on what you mean by "true stereo somethings" -- if you're just talking stereo delays and such, then yes. But if you can increase the difference between each side of the stereo signal (different amps, IRs, etc), then I disagree. The spatialization will improve and you'll eliminate phasing and modal issues as you move throughout the venue because you never have the same signal coming from two different point sources.from there, if you have a Stereo output from both guitars and pan both full left and right, even with true stereo somethings coming from each guitar, both guitars being panned the same will yield pretty much a similar result as both being mono in terms of audience experience, spatialization, etc.
That’s the same as running both guitars mono and not panning them, the original topic of this whole thing.
agreed. but i think for the most part, from what i can gather from various statements, Hansen would be going "stereo" but sending the exact same signal left and right. if it is different, then great, but various times within this thread it seemed to be the same signal.
so my point is if you send the exact same signal left and right, it's the same as sending a single mono signal. some people are still calling it "stereo" just because they use 2 output cables, regardless of what's actually in each signal.