Here you go.......................P L E A S E ........... H E L P.............. I need help to make the instrument sound thicker and not so dry. Please, Please, Please...... don't tell me to just add reverb. I want something more. I want a richer tone before I ever get to the place of adding reverb.
My audio file has:
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- Totally dry with no blocks engaged
- Just a little compressor - that has a side chain
- Just a pass filter - cutting off the very lows and highs
- Just an EQ - to try to bring some frequencies to help enrich the sound
- All three - Compressor; Band Pass Filter and EQ
- All three - plus a touch of Reverb
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Here's my audio recorded directly off of the axe into Audacity on my tablet.
Will I get slapped if I post this in the main discussion topic for the axe-fx-iii????
Thanks for any advice on making the piezo powered violin sound richer
@Alex Kerezy take a cab block, find the factory IR that says something about "totally flat", then turn on the preamp in the cab block. Turn off all your other compression and EQ...
Turn the preamp to tube, high quality, bump up the drive 2 or 3 db, then bump up the bass 3 or 4 db. There are a bunch of different preamp types you can change it to, tape shaves a bit more high end off, modern sounds pretty clean if you want to keep it super clear but still add richness. But between the preamp drive and bass, I bet that will add what you're looking for. (Bass boost to highlight the resonance of a high register instrument)
To find the bow noise freq, use a high pass filter to cut the lows until you get right under the bow noise, then turn off the filter, then set the multi comp crossovers so that the mid-band of the multi-comp is centred wherever that bow noise peak is, to take a few db off at that peak.
It sounds good with the flat cab, the Tonematch can't be right, though. That is a more complicated thing, the manual should help there a lot. I'd just say, try the amp, cab and the tonematch and experiment with the "amount" or "smoothing" of the tonematch - it may give you what you want, but really check the manual, with the tonematch you have to really do it right.First - THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I do appreciate the expertise here. I tried two things:
I like this - it is a little "fuller" or maybe "thicker" than using a compressor; filter; EQ by themselves or in combination
- Just a Cab with the TOTALLY FLAT Cab
- Jokingly - I recorded it first with the Gain up to 9
- Then I recorded it with the Gain at 2
2. Then I tried a Tonematch - I did the Tonematch and tried it by itself only (No Cab block), then along with the Cab block - At the end of the recording I have the reference source. The tonematch absolutely makes the tone "less bright" and a little "deeper".
I'm actually thinking of kind of keeping, or building out both - one for more fiddle sounds or songs, and the tonematch for more string type sounds.
I'm STILL OPEN TO TWEAKS and SUGGESTIONS HERE ---
Again - thanks for taking the time to read and listen to the recording!!....and more importantly....provide suggestions here
- Did I do the Tonematch right?
- What about something that provides some sustain, without reverb?
- What about the mic placement settings in the Cab block - can those help provide a sustain or thicken the sound?
- Since the tonematch took away some of the brightness (which is OK), how do I boost the volume back up?
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I'm running an acoustic violin with a piezo pickup [LR Baggs] into my Axe-Fx iii - and I get a lot of bow noise. I am using a notch filter and an EQ to tweak the sound.
A DeEsser might be a nice bloc
Yeah I know; I'm one of the few acoustic owners
Thanks for the suggestion. I found one TM, but no IRs. Now perhaps somebody put something out there with a name other than 'violin', and I missed it. I'll try the tone match tomorrow.Is't there a violin IR on axchange? Pretty sure there are some TM IR's and some have used the gtrbody IR as well.
Try adding a Compressor block at the beginning of your signal chain. I like the Optical or Studio models.you can hear how this instrument "rings out" and "carries". I am using the best words I know to describe the sound I'm hearing, but not getting. It's almost like there's a sustain of the instrument