Compressors-Cabinet or Cabinet-Compressors?

[Hamer90]

Hi guys!

The other day I started to build a new sound-based amplifier Fender EVH 5150 III.

I came up with the idea to compress the signal before it enters the Cabinet. I always put the Cabinet, and then the Compressors. But changing their places need to adjust the EQ on the Amp or on Multicompressor)
Both options I liked.

Question: but how? Amp-Comp-Cab or Amp-Cab-Comp?



Here is my patch: View attachment Fender EVH 5150.syx
You can experiment!

Thank you!

 

[gin]

im going for the cab-comp option as it is more like a studio situation. OR pedal compressore before the amp. by using the compressor inbetween the compressor is reacting to a signal you're not hearing in the end (a harsh sound as you would hear by bypassing the cab simulation) so the overtones of a distortion are far more pronounced and therefore much more likely for the compressor to react to it.

if you're going for a more sustained sound on higain patches i d put the compressore before the amp. if you want to make the amp less boomy in the lows (like palm mutes) i d go for a multiband compressor after the band.

if you have something different in mind maybe the compressor before cab thing might work also, depending on what you want to archieve

 

[Hamer90]

Thank you, gin!

You guessed about palm mutes!

I use multicompressor to remove boomy in the low. This is the main reason!

By the way, just recorded a solo on this patch.



What do you think about this sound?

 

[javajunkie]

If the motor drive is very low or off, it won't matter. If an effect is linear time invariant (like the cab block), compressor before or after will not make a difference. On the other hand, if there is significant amounts of motor drive, it could make a difference.

Before or after the amp block is an entirely different story though. That makes a big difference.

 

[Bakerman]

If the motor drive is very low or off, it won't matter. If an effect is linear time invariant (like the cab block), compressor before or after will not make a difference. On the other hand, if there is significant amounts of motor drive, it could make a difference.

Before or after the amp block is an entirely different story though. That makes a big difference.

With comp it makes a difference (just to level, not tone) because the signal it's detecting has changed. F.ex a cab that cuts lows would probably make low palm-muted parts compress less when cab is before comp.