Axe2 Preset building

this is real interesting stuff......
I'm not very familiar with loopers of any kind..
never messed with them at all...

I think I have a bit of a steep curve ahead...
I reckon it's gonna take some getting used to
 
clarky said:
this is real interesting stuff......
I'm not very familiar with loopers of any kind..
never messed with them at all...

I think I have a bit of a steep curve ahead...
I reckon it's gonna take some getting used to
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It is as easy as hit record on the beat and hit it on the beat again when you are done with loop, haha. :D

All jokes aside, I think it is as easy as you make it. I use the looper live and it works very well. Granted I keep it very basic RECORD, OVERDUB and STOP. As tech savvy and musically talented as you are I bet you will get along with it just fine. I'm a hack and I can pull it off, HAHA!
 
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evolvE said:
It is as easy as hit record on the beat and hit it on the beat again when you are done with loop, haha. :D

All jokes aside, I think it is as easy as you make it. I use the looper live and it works very well. Granted I keep it very basic RECORD, OVERDUB and STOP. As tech savvy and musically talented as you are I bet you will get along with it just fine. I'm a hack and I can pull it off, HAHA!
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erm.... we intend to play in time sigs like stupid/8.. lmao
so when I've gone and found me 'the one' I'm gonna have to stomp on the go button... lmao
 
funnily enough... the band name Prym8 is a sort of joke...
cos the opening riff of the song Primate is all prime numbers / 8

somewhere in Italy on tour
can't recall word for word, but it was something like this:
Craig - Clarky you got to come up with something mental
Clarky - got any specific time sigs you fancy?
Craig - dunno.. loads of them.. just loads of mental ones
Clarky - ok.. so how about all prime numbers over 8
Craig - yeah whatever.. just mental really [laughing]
Clarky - ok.. prime / 8 it is then...

then when I got back off tour I wrote Primate
 
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ok.. so here goes... my first Prym8 preset..
this will be my principle preset and will carry most of the live set..
before I do anything I need to plan it..
it'll behave lie a triple channel amp

scene1 - Riff
scene2 - Solo
scene3 - Clean

features:
- clean<->dirty tone morphing
- wah

that'll do for starters...

so here's the first thing to consider control wise
do I have one scene per switch?
or
1 and 2 on one switch and 3 on another?

the first option offers more flexibility but uses more switches than the 2nd
 
a little late to the party... but I've just discovered how the reveal switch works...
this puts a whole new complexion on things..

so if I'm out with the DC Band and I have the VG as a backup, I'll go for my FC-300 solution...
but if I have two Axe's, it's gonna be the MFC..
this means though that I need another FV-500H and a Mission SP1

the temporary workaround [until I get the new pedals] will be to use both the FC and MFC together
which means that I need to call a taxi to get from one end of my controllers to the other.. lmao
 
clarky said:
scene1 - Riff
scene2 - Solo
scene3 - Clean
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So does this mean you'l be using an expression pedal to go from Clean to Riff, and another switch to jump into Solo? You can't really morph from one Scene to another that I know of? But what a great thought huh? LOL
 
clarky said:
scene1 - Riff
scene2 - Solo
scene3 - Clean

features:
- clean<->dirty tone morphing
- wah

that'll do for starters...

so here's the first thing to consider control wise
do I have one scene per switch?
or
1 and 2 on one switch and 3 on another?

the first option offers more flexibility but uses more switches than the 2nd
Click to expand...

sorted....
one switch per scene

MFC
IA1 = scene1
IA2 = scene2
IA3 = scene3
IA4 = CC:20 [modifier extern1]
IA5 = CC:21 [modifier extern2]
the FS-6 can now be connected to the MFC XS3/4 port to pick up modifiers extern3 and 4
 
MarkShrader said:
So does this mean you'l be using an expression pedal to go from Clean to Riff, and another switch to jump into Solo? You can't really morph from one Scene to another that I know of? But what a great thought huh? LOL
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I'll still use an expression pedal for clean-dirty morphing because it's a different kind of clean...
the morphed clean tone is a gainy amp cleaned..
which sounds and feels a little different to a real clean amp..

both amp types and the morphing control simply offer more possibilities
 
ha... just noticed something quite funny - but a bit of a pain in the ass...

the switch polarity of my FS-6 is opposite to the MFC IA's
so for example, using IA4 for solo mode, on = riff and off = solo... lmao

it's ok.. I'll fix this when the new AE [or more likely when fw10] comes out cos it'll be less painful
all I need to do is swap the min / max settings in the modifiers and then change the polarity of the FS-6
this will make everything compatible with everything else...
duhh!!
 
clarky said:
sorted....
one switch per scene

MFC
IA1 = scene1
IA2 = scene2
IA3 = scene3
IA4 = CC:20 [modifier extern1]
IA5 = CC:21 [modifier extern2]
the FS-6 can now be connected to the MFC XS3/4 port to pick up modifiers extern3 and 4
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So
Scene 1 Riff
Scene 2 Solo
Scene 3 Clean w/ morph to Dirty (that isn't Riff or Solo)?
 
Clarky, please don't waste any time trying to explain to me. I'm just enjoying the process with you. I like that you are planning your approach before you spend time tweaking. Smart man!
 
the clean won't morph to anything, it'll just get quiet [so don't bother wiggling the XP.. lol]
only the dirty tones..

now if the nice FAS folk were to break the modifer's X-Y relationship
I could get clever and use the XP to fade in a chorus without the clean amp [on the amp2 Y side] going quiet
that'd be really cool
 
the MFC is all set up now..

10 presets [cos that makes sense to me]

reveal calls up
IA1 = scene1 - Riff
IA2 = scene2 - Solo
IA3 = scene3 - Clean
IA4 = CC:20 [modifier extern1]
IA5 = CC:21 [modifier extern2]

this means that [like before] I'd live within a single preset for a whole song
so between songs, change preset and hit reveal to get at the IA's

EDIT: and as a temporary solution [here in the studio only] I'm using the FC-300 to provide the two XP's [cos they have toe switches]
and so my FV-500H is now a real volume pedal
guit -> FV -> Axe
 
just made a copy of Riff/Solo1ST3, renamed to Riff/Solo1ST4

the first job is to pick it apart to make the scenes work
I'm going to look for all fx block level / pan / bypass parms that are assigned to modifier extern5
one by one, they'll be removed and the behaviour switched to either scene1 for riffing or scene2 for soloing
 
first prob with scenes

I thought [seems like I was mistaken] that scenes could control an amp block's pan control
looks like it cannot

I have no solution to this yet
 
Scenes only control engage/bypass, x/y, last layout page "main" level and a few FX block items. It cannot change other block settings like pan or drive etc.

You could set different pan settings per x/y amps, but I'm sure you are using x/y for other things already.
 
So if we change any level like amp,,cab,fx it will change in all of the scenes?
If I want different levels in scenes it has to be done in the last output main output?
 
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