Axe-Fx III Firmware 32.02 Public Beta #2 (Beta 3)

[ertan]

Could be placebo, but...

Atomica got better.
It really got better.
Like… a lot better.
I thought it couldn’t get any better…
then it got better again.
Every time I tried it, it got better.
I said “okay, this must be the limit”…
but no — it got even better.
It just kept getting better.

 

[unix-guy]

I’m assuming the oversampling won’t make it down to the FM9 since the CPU hit would be too large, right?

I wouldn't assume that...

 

[unix-guy]

Maybe you shouldn't call it "oversampling" but just "eco-mode", similar to the reverbs?

But that's not really what it is...

There was "normal" and now there is "improved".

 

[danwei]

But „normal“ now saves some cpu and lacks some quality in comparison, so it basically behaves the same as the eco reverbs. IMO it would just give you a consistent user experience and would need no further explanation to less experienced users. Just an idea.

 

[sprint]

But „normal“ now saves some cpu and lacks some quality in comparison

From the presets I've tested so far, "normal" uses the same amount if CPU as before (leading me to assume "Normal"=no change from previous fw). Setting oversampling to "High" uses more CPU than previous fw (so raising quality from prev fw). There's no drive
oversample setting that saves CPU compared to prev fw from what I've seen so far but I haven't tested all the drives.

 

[nomoretubes]

I’d expect it to show up like reverb, as mentioned.

Even on the am4, reverb defaults to economy but you can goose it all the way up to high quality.

Depending on your blocks it’s no biggie to run HQ reverb on an am4. Some amps eat more CPU than others.

It would surprise me if it wasn’t implemented across the products as such.

 

[unix-guy]

I’d expect it to show up like reverb, as mentioned.

Even on the am4, reverb defaults to economy but you can goose it all the way up to high quality.

Depending on your blocks it’s no biggie to run HQ reverb on an am4. Some amps eat more CPU than others.

It would surprise me if it wasn’t implemented across the products as such.

On effects with "economy" options, those were added as lower quality less CPU intensive options.

This change is not providing that...

 

[danwei]

I’m just trying to say that it seems to me that cliff has only given the possibility to choose between “high” or “low” oversampling modes because you could save some CPU with “low”. Therefore “low” would be the new economy mode. And you would not need a parameter that has no counterpart in the “real world”, therefore it could be easier to understand what it basically does.

 

[jimmynorrisjr]

The Friedman amps sound fantastic. The deluxe reverb sounds better than ever. Drives in high mode are like HD now. WOW

 

[scarbodave]

I’m just trying to say that it seems to me that cliff has only given the possibility to choose between “high” or “low” oversampling modes because you could save some CPU with “low”. Therefore “low” would be the new economy mode. And you would not need a parameter that has no counterpart in the “real world”, therefore it could be easier to understand what it basically does.

While I agree that relabeling the low oversampling as eco mode for the drive block would make things simpler and consistent with other blocks like reverb I prefer to know what the control does so having it labeled as oversampling high and low is my preference.

 

[unix-guy]

I’m just trying to say that it seems to me that cliff has only given the possibility to choose between “high” or “low” oversampling modes because you could save some CPU with “low”. Therefore “low” would be the new economy mode. And you would not need a parameter that has no counterpart in the “real world”, therefore it could be easier to understand what it basically does.

As stated already multiple times, you are NOT saving CPU.

The CPU will be the same as it was before or it will be higher than before.

 

[komorebi_dayo]

unix-guy he is not literally saying you save CPU over the current default. he is saying as a matter of general user language access that normal is a CPU savings over high and that "Eco" as a descriptor would convey that accessibly rather than keeping "Oversampling" as a category which is less accessible

 

[Alexis]

Added “Oversampling” parameter to Drive block. When set to HIGH the oversampling rate is doubled which results in less aliasing. NOTE: This will increase CPU usage considerably.

But what about the Preamp-Boost in the AMP-Block? For example the 808? Is it running without "oversampling" and therefore a worse option than the dedicated Drive block with "oversampling" activated or isn't it making any difference because it's nit a "full Drive Block" but rather a "simple boost"?

 

[yyz67]

But what about the Preamp-Boost in the AMP-Block? For example the 808? Is it running without "oversampling" and therefore a worse option than the dedicated Drive block with "oversampling" activated or isn't it making any difference because it's nit a "full Drive Block" but rather a "simple boost"?

That's a pure EQ effect, no (additional or different) sampling required.

 

[Domct203]

If I’m using my drive block as a typical front end boost (gain very low to off) would oversampling even have any advantages?

 

[yyz67]

If I’m using my drive block as a typical front end boost (gain very low to off) would oversampling even have any advantages?

Try it and listen. EoB might still be susceptible to potential differences.

 

[cole lewis]

If I’m using my drive block as a typical front end boost (gain very low to off) would oversampling even have any advantages?

Turn it on and off. Do you like the sound better? If you don't hear anything, then just leave it off if you want/need to save CPU.

 

[Domct203]

Try it and listen. EoB might still be susceptible to potential differences.

I plan to, but not until the weekend.

 

[Domct203]

Turn it on and off. Do you like the sound better? If you don't hear anything, then just leave it off if you want/need to save CPU.

Yea I get it, ‘use your ears’ & I plan too.

Was just curious until I get the chance to update. I’m guessing that with no gain the difference will not be noticeable at all.

 

[Randalljax]

If I’m using my drive block as a typical front end boost (gain very low to off) would oversampling even have any advantages?

I would look at the amp input boost too if you have no drive on the pedal an are just using the curve and a clean boost you could save the Cpu