Axe-Fx III Firmware 25.04 Release

suhrmajesty said:
You guys did the same thing when I said that the noise gate had issues and was noisier than my Axe II in the same environment.

I ordered an Axe FX 3 Turbo over a year ago and had to send it back; it was SO noisy. All I heard from most of you folks was 'sure, it's not noisy here; it must be your environment.' Then Cliff updates the noise gate a few months back and bam, everything is perfect, sounds SO QUIET, MUCH QUITER THAN MY AXE II even some others noticed and spoke out.

If you don't agree and want to settle for a pitch block that isn't up to par with the rest of the unit, cool, but Cliff needs to hear the wobbles and the weakness from those that want it to be better than a $150.00 pedal. The video speaks for itself.

I am trying to help Cliff improve the weakest link in the chain here, maybe he will take another look at that block, if he does and fixes it then cool, if not maybe I will have to wait for Axe Fx 4 and finally have the best pitch out there.

To the rest of you that can't hear it, that is on you, just know not everyone can see the Matrix.
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Got links to your music?
 
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suhrmajesty said:
You guys did the same thing when I said that the noise gate had issues and was noisier than my Axe II in the same environment.

I ordered an Axe FX 3 Turbo over a year ago and had to send it back; it was SO noisy. All I heard from most of you folks was 'sure, it's not noisy here; it must be your environment.' Then Cliff updates the noise gate a few months back and bam, everything is perfect, sounds SO QUIET, MUCH QUITER THAN MY AXE II even some others noticed and spoke out.

If you don't agree and want to settle for a pitch block that isn't up to par with the rest of the unit, cool, but Cliff needs to hear the wobbles and the weakness from those that want it to be better than a $150.00 pedal. The video speaks for itself.

I am trying to help Cliff improve the weakest link in the chain here, maybe he will take another look at that block, if he does and fixes it then cool, if not maybe I will have to wait for Axe Fx 4 and finally have the best pitch out there.

To the rest of you that can't hear it, that is on you, just know not everyone can see the Matrix.
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In the video, the tracking is set to the wrong option for chords so yes, the video speaks for itself LOL!
https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/axe-fx-iii-firmware-25-04-release.205702/post-2567897
 
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It sounds like Brit JVM OD1 Green has more gain Brit JVM OD2 Green. At least with the cab I'm using tonight, 4x12 Sorcerer 57 from Cab Pack 6 (Cabs In The Attic) with the 4x12 Brit TV SIC, using the same settings on the Tone page between the two models, I hear it.

I find it easiest just to use the Amp Compare function on FracTool (thanks as always @AlGrenadine for your incredible work!), to be able to switch easily with not only the BMT, but also Presence, Depth, and MV copied from one model to another.

Anyway, maybe it's just a perceptual trick on the mind because of how it interacts with that IR and / or SIC, but I thought I'd mention it in case it is an actual bug.

Thanks as always for looking into it!
 
@suhrmajesty has a valid point. His frustration, as displayed by his last post, is possibly due to the common occurrence that some folks on here have a tendency to, for lack of better words, bully those who point out frustrations with certain aspects of Fractal features. It's the tail as old as the internet, the unspoken but understood: "the higher the post count, the bigger the digital sword". I'm not calling anyone out specifically, but this forum has a certain reputation for being awfully critical of those who don't drink the koolaid and happen to voice their frustrations. That being said, the delivery is just as important as the message.

While the pitch block could certainly be improved, I think it's a significantly good block for all of its' features. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't, or can't address any shortcomings, as compared to other manufacturers' products that are available on the market. I don't think there's anything inherently negative in saying that. I've found the same frustrations myself over the years with the VC, but while keeping in mind that in the totality of the feature set of the AxeFX, the VC is a screwdriver, not a hammer drill. It's a helpful tool, but not a heavy lifter. The flagship of the AxeFX lineup has and always will be the amplifier modeling.

The way I've seen things improve around here, is when folks are polite and helpful, in their approach to mentioning areas that we collectively feel Cliff should look at. Maybe the pitch block is as far as Cliff can take it, given the inherent nature of cause/effect in that arena, when it comes to artifacts, tremolo, tracking, etc. Maybe it's something that gets a closer look down the road. Who knows. But again, I think our frustrated friend here does have a point.
 
VC is fine; if not for you, capo up or tune down.

Sometimes I play open voicings - and neither is going to help me other than turning tuners.
 
I've been under the impression that any further enhancement of the pitch block would take unrealistically powerful computing power, the same reason Serato Pitch N Time is not a realtime program.
 
State of Epicicity said:
I've been under the impression that any further enhancement of the pitch block would take unrealistically powerful computing power, the same reason Serato Pitch N Time is not a realtime program.
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Quantum Processor coming in the AXE FX IV ? :D
Way i see it if there is something which can't be done or is not to any particular persons needs or satisfaction in the Fractalverse, just get something else that can and Integrate it in your Fractal
 
Stonetone said:
Quantum Processor coming in the AXE FX IV ? :D
Way i see it if there is something which can't be done or is not to any particular persons needs or satisfaction in the Fractalverse, just get something else that can and Integrate it in your Fractal
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If it definitively can not be done, yes. But the history of Fractal has been pushing the back the goal post…
 
State of Epicicity said:
I've been under the impression that any further enhancement of the pitch block would take unrealistically powerful computing power, the same reason Serato Pitch N Time is not a realtime program.
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Anything's possible. Somebody might come out with a realtime (non-realtime is a whole other matter) pitch shifter tomorrow that blows all existing implementations out of the water, but no, the current implementations are not constrained by cpu. They are constrained by the physical laws that govern our universe. Low latency, accurate tracking, and transient preservation are all competing objectives and if you favor one, the others will suffer. It's a matter of trade offs, not insufficient cpu.

Is there one realtime polyphonic pitch shifter that stands out from the others right now? I would say no. There are a few that are right up there at the top and the Axe-FX has to be included in that top tier, but it would be hard to make the argument that one is better than the others.

I'll also mention that yes, this forum is famous for rudely dismissing wishes for improvement. However, there's a big difference between wishing for an improvement and claiming there's a problem that needs to be fixed. The latter requires some kind of evidence that the problem exists. In this case, no such evidence was provided.
 
calling back to the stand in switch assignments for use with external hardware switches 'bug'. I went into FC edit and for two of my switches that had a secondary hold functions that stopped working in this FW. removing the hold functions did allow the switch to work again. a temp work around. Also, i didnt need hold functions on my external switches anyhow.
 
SinglecutGuy said:
@suhrmajesty has a valid point. His frustration, as displayed by his last post, is possibly due to the common occurrence that some folks on here have a tendency to, for lack of better words, bully those who point out frustrations with certain aspects of Fractal features. It's the tail as old as the internet, the unspoken but understood: "the higher the post count, the bigger the digital sword". I'm not calling anyone out specifically, but this forum has a certain reputation for being awfully critical of those who don't drink the koolaid and happen to voice their frustrations. That being said, the delivery is just as important as the message.

While the pitch block could certainly be improved, I think it's a significantly good block for all of its' features. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't, or can't address any shortcomings, as compared to other manufacturers' products that are available on the market. I don't think there's anything inherently negative in saying that. I've found the same frustrations myself over the years with the VC, but while keeping in mind that in the totality of the feature set of the AxeFX, the VC is a screwdriver, not a hammer drill. It's a helpful tool, but not a heavy lifter. The flagship of the AxeFX lineup has and always will be the amplifier modeling.

The way I've seen things improve around here, is when folks are polite and helpful, in their approach to mentioning areas that we collectively feel Cliff should look at. Maybe the pitch block is as far as Cliff can take it, given the inherent nature of cause/effect in that arena, when it comes to artifacts, tremolo, tracking, etc. Maybe it's something that gets a closer look down the road. Who knows. But again, I think our frustrated friend here does have a point.
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Also a jerk move to gaslight the whole forum. We all got what he was saying/doing.
 
25.04 broke the momentary function of my external footswitches. Hold still worked on all external switches. Rolled it back to 25.01 back in business!
 
State of Epicicity said:
Has anyone else found Brit JVM OD1 to have more gain than Brit JVM OD2?
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The only difference should be the frequency range of the mid pots. That said, because of that difference in range you can end up with more or less of certain mids between the two which you could perceive as a difference in gain (the same way scooped sounds seem higher gain then very mid forward sounds which feel dryer).
 
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