I already owned that cab pack and so based on your comments above I have been sampling cabs with Brit Silver. Thank you so much for weighing in here...I think this cab may have replaced my DynaCab and I'm pretty sure you've helped me create my new main amp/cab combination!!!
Incorrect. I did a scan presets "refresh after upgrade" before closing the program and it didn't help. Fc edit should already be updating its table after the preset is saved.
That re-reads block definitions. I don't believe it rescans presets...
My main amp, until I blew the transformer then it never sounded the same, was a 1978 JMP 2203 MV with a TS Power Soak, I wish I still had it but I do have a Randy Rhodes JMP and that thing sounds crazy good but loud as hell. I have been playing around with the tone stack in the AX3 but I am not there yet. I have or owned most of those amps and the Jubilee now sounds a lot better. Not a fan of the 900 or the JVM. I was a Marshall dealer for a long time and the DSL100 was our best selling amp. I ended up with a TSL100 and a DSL100 and my TSL channel 2 soundeds incredible 3 sucks. Happy NY! Cheers!Is there a general consensus that guys who own/have owned a real Silver Jubilee think that the "Brit Silver" model is not accurate?
Also, if you are in that camp, do you believe that it is because there is no adjustable "Lead Master" control?
I can say without a doubt that I am a Marshall amp guy. I have owned two of the 50 watt 2553 Jubilee stacks that had the matching 2x12 cabs w/ T75s. I also more recently owned a 20 watt Jubilee with its matching 2x12 w/G12 Vintage speakers. That one sounded closer than the Fractal model but not quite as good as the original. With the new improved "Brit Silver" I hear a slight difference but without that "Lead Master" control.......still not there. If you polled all guys who have experience with a real Jubilee the majority will say the same thing.....the Input gain-Lead Master- and Output master knobs are very interactive with each other. Another thing you might hear is that the Jub sounds even better if you replace the standard EL34s with E34Ls. You would also here many guys make this statement: "Slash uses this amp? Weird, I don't really hear that." Another thing about the Jubilee amp that many don't know, if you use it as a power amp you will find the tone stack is after the loop and the big one: that is the most scooped power amp tone of any Marshal by a huge amount.
Well, since I am rantingI might as well continue:
Marshall amp guys would generally say the following:
The best Marshall amp tones after the 2203 are these:
The real Jubilee.
The JCM 900 DR if and only if it is an original with the EL34 power tubes and you put a cable in the loop to add a bit more gain.
The 6100 if it is an original 6100 LE with the EL34s and only the clean chs and Ch 2 in the B mode. The rest of the Chs/modes....suck.
The DSL on the crunch Ch and the Lead 1 Ch with the mid shift NOT engaged. The Lead 2 ch SUCKS. The clean Ch...blah.
The following amps most will say suck or are just blah blah, the before mentioned are better.
2 Ch JCM 800s.....suck
JCM 900 with 5881s...Suck This model is where the JCM 900 gets its bad rap from.
The TSL...Suck! Some might think that this is just a DSL with a 3rd ch....Not! SUCK!
The JVM 4 ch...Blah Blah Blah/Suck Suck Suck.... It's like they tried to make the DSL better but did not! Most guys that previously owned a DSL were not convinced by this monstrosity with a gazillion knobs.
The JS JVM......Blah Blah Blah.........SUCK! When JS used a multi Ch Marshall it was a 6100LE....Marshall somehow forgot how to do it on this model???
Some other Marshall models that might find their way into the not suck camp are:
JCM 900 SLX
Vintage Modern
The Brit Silver model and my JCM Slash sound pretty much identical using the Lead Channel with the gain knob pushed in, so I'm guessing that's the mode Cliff used for the Brit Silver model. All EQ knobs are pretty much in the same spot except for the Bass on the amp is set slightly above 8 and the model is at 9.45. The Bass knob on the real amp gives a MAJOR low end boost between 8-10, but that might just be the difference between two physical amps.
Thank you, brother. It means a lot coming from another Marshall enthusiast.
Awesome! I'm glad you liked the preset. I haven't even tried that amp with other IRs or Mixes, but thought it sounded great with Mix 01 without touching the real amp.
Great to have you on board! Fractal stuff keeps getting more and more inspiring and mind blowing as time goes on. It's crazy how much realistic detail there is not only in the amp models, but in the effects as well. You chose wisely.
That's great to hear! It's hard to beat a Jubilee through a 1960bv and I'm glad you've found something that works for you. I need to try the new Brit Silver with the Slash inspired Mixes from that pack.
The Brit 800 2204 High sounds almost identical to my '77 50w JMP when I change the power tubes to 6550 SVET (I can't remember if I changed the preamp tubes).
Yes, it's the lead channel w/ the gain knob pushed in.
It sounds great! Kinda jaw-dropping to hear how close it is. Did you use a different amp for the updated model?
I posted it in the 1.13.11 thread. maybe @Michael Pickens can take a look.
I want to know too.
pretend to understand while pouring yourself a drinkAnother thing I've noticed, on Lead when you Pull Rhythm Clip the diodes (D4, D5) are at ground potential on both sides so they do absolutely nothing when pulled, what we hear is R9 attenuating the volume slightly in parallel with R10+R8.
If anything, C6 (2.2nF) might be smoothing the sound (LPF) when Rhythm Clip is NOT Pulled because the signal goes through this cap to ground, I might even say that the signal is 'truer' when Rhythm Clip is Pulled because C6 and the Diodes are completely shorted, so the sound is a little brighter and quieter but NOT due to extra diode clipping.
Busting some Jubilee myths here.
Here's the ground reference again, blue line.
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I like you even more now.
If you're C6, maybe take some Dramamine?
Absolutely this!