Axe-Fx Firmware Version 21.00

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Thomas Obester said:
yes, it is better now, just strange that you move presence knob and it behave like kid that refuse to speak to you :D
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That’s not the only one that do this.
At the same time, in real heads, it happens often that the knobs don’t really act like a graphic eq does. Some knobs got just 2/3 sounds in the end, they are not very progressive . And many of them after 5 don’t act really
 
Boogie is the same. In recto series, when you play with the basic treble/mid/bass knobs your head goes like this :

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When you imagine that turning the mid at zero will scooped the sound like a V diagram type like in a mark hm.
They also explain in boogies that each knobs act with each others, a big mess. In the end I don’t know why the amp makers didn’t stop with these shitty knobs and just put a graphic eq in their heads . Something that work
 
My name is mud said:
That’s not the only one that do this.
At the same time, in real heads, it happens often that the knob don’t really act like a graphic eq does. Some knobs got just 2/3 sounds in the end, they are not very progressive . And many of them after 5 don’t act really
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This is a great point. I believe Cliff wrote that the 5150, e.g., has an unhelpfully small range on the real amp, so he increased that range in the model, just to make it more functional. I suppose one could make a wishlist request to do this for other amps too, which is a cool idea.
 
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This is a great point. I believe Cliff wrote that the 5150, e.g., has an unhelpfully small range on the real amp, so he increased that range in the model, just to make it more functional. I suppose one could make a wishlist request to do this for other amps too, which is a cool idea.
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Yep but it will remove the « authentic thing ». Personally I like that the knob act like the real heads . We have the eq’s if we want to go further
 
My name is mud said:
Yep but it remove the authentic thing. Personally I like that the knob act like the real head . We have the eq’s if we want to go further
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yeah, I have also not problem if it is more authentic now.
I probably missed tha chat, where it was mentioned that it´s more like real amp now.
 
My name is mud said:
Boogie is the same. In recto series, when you play with the basic treble/mid/bass knobs your head goes like this :

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When you imagine that turning the mid at zero will scooped the sound like a V diagram type like in a mark hm.
They also explain in boogies that each knobs act with each others, a big mess. In the end I don’t know why the amp makers didn’t stop with these shitty knobs and just put a graphic eq in their heads . Something that work
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Another great point. Part of the secret handshake it takes to unlock good tone. I wonder if this is why a primary design modification of amps that are based off famous designs is simply to change what happens when the knobs are at noon.
 
Thomas Obester said:
yeah, I have also not problem if it is more authentic now.
I probably missed tha chat, where it was mentioned that it´s more like real amp now.
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I don’t see a chat about the afd. And it is written nowhere in the release note. The sure thing is that the presence knob as been fixed, before there was a bug. I don’t know why it is noticed nowhere but.. then I don’t know if the presence knob act like this in the head as I never played an afd
 
Thomas Obester said:
yes, exactly, so now we know it probably wasn´t close to real afd haha :D
I tested all my favourite amp models with IR´s and all of them are improved.
Now the real test will be with real mesa cab :smilingimp:
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Yes the cool things with 21.00 is that none amps sound strange now. There is not a « weak amp » like it used to, like the afd, the Vai ones … everything is usable now.
The only amp that I’m not convinced with 21.00 is the 5153. I prefered how it sound before . The fact that his bass are cut now make it sound more trebly
 
My name is mud said:
Yes the cool things with 21.00 is that none amps sound strange now. There is not a « weak amp » like it used to, like the afd, the Vai ones … everything is usable now.
The only amp that I’m not convinced with 21.00 is the 5153. I prefered how it sound before . The fact that his bass are cut now make it sound more trebly
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I agree about 5153.. before it sounded amazing but IMO not realistic.. real 5153 doesn’t have that much low end..
 
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