axe fx 2 tone suck - help!

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lironas1

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hey friends how are you today ? and mary christmas to how celebrate it.
i would like to get help. i play with mesa boogie roadking 2 and axe fx in the fx loop.
when i play like that the tone of my amp get very dawn. if i dissengeged the loop so its sound good.
i dont sure why it happens but when i put eventied h9 in my loop its now working.
i use the 4cm and i did the balance with the boost pad, just dont know what is not good.
thank you for your help
 
In my experience, those loops can be a bit difficult getting everything balanced.


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i know my friends its hard to balance i just want to know if somebody know what is the best way ?
maybe petrucci can tell me how he does it haha?
and i will do the tone match just not understand wich chanel ?
and i did the mixing with the outputs so its not the problem
i still well be very happy if someone can help me
 
schlagdog said:
If you aren't maxxxing out output 1&2 knobs on the front of the axefx do that.
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And what good would that do? Not remotely a helpful solution. The best solution is to shoot for unity gain, not maxxxxxxxxxxx ...

We don't have any idea what his F/X chain looks like, their respective levels, etc. What is his I/O menu setup like? How about what in's and out's he is using? Let's start with a knowledgeable baseline.
 
lironas1 said:
i know my friends its hard to balance i just want to know if somebody know what is the best way ?
maybe petrucci can tell me how he does it haha?
and i will do the tone match just not understand wich chanel ?
and i did the mixing with the outputs so its not the problem
i still well be very happy if someone can help me
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Start by looking at the 4CM instructions in the manual (four cable method). This will give you a good starting point, as well as an opportunity to run some effects before the amp's input as well as some in the effects loop.
 
plyall said:
And what good would that do? Not remotely a helpful solution. The best solution is to shoot for unity gain, not maxxxxxxxxxxx ...
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From the manual:
The Manual said:
To operate with unity gain, set the Output Level knobs to maximum.
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plyall said:
We don't have any idea what his F/X chain looks like, their respective levels, etc. What is his I/O menu setup like? How about what in's and out's he is using? Let's start with a knowledgeable baseline.
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This is the heart of the matter. You make a painting of a beautiful outdoor scene. Then you say, "Hey guys, I don't like how my painting looks. What's wrong with it?"

We don't know unless you show us the painting.
 
plyall said:
And what good would that do? Not remotely a helpful solution. The best solution is to shoot for unity gain, not maxxxxxxxxxxx ...

We don't have any idea what his F/X chain looks like, their respective levels, etc. What is his I/O menu setup like? How about what in's and out's he is using? Let's start with a knowledgeable baseline.
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This might help.
From Wiki:
4CM: unity gain

The Axe-Fx II can maintain unity gain when settings things up for 4CM. Just turn both Output knobs on the front panel fully up. This is only useful in a 4CM setup! There's no need for this when NOT running a 4CM setup.
Cliff: "Unity gain mode is a special mode designed for use with the 4CM. When you turn the output levels all the way up whatever you put in you get out (assuming all unity-gain blocks in the chain). If you have an amp block in the chain then you have tons of gain and therefore no longer have unity gain." Source
Cliff: "Unity gain mode is only desirable for 4-cable-method." Source
4CM: noise

4CM can result in hum caused by ground loops. Humbuster cables help to prevent this.
Using the Axe-Fx in a 4CM setup introduces noise because of the analog/digital conversion. Cliff: "It is very difficult to minimize the hiss when putting a digital processor in front of a high-gain amp due to the A/D and D/A conversions. The XL is probably one of the quietest processors made but there will still be some residual hiss when using high gain. The Output 2 Boost/Pad feature was specifically intended to minimize hiss in these scenarios by running the D/A converter as "hot" as possible and then reducing the signal level after the converter with an analog pad." Source
Javajunkie: "To get rid of the residue hiss, use the gate block as an expander. Place the gate block after the fx loop block. Use a very hi ratio, and a quick attack release time. Start with the threshold all the way down and raise it up until this hiss disappears."

Also this thread:
http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-discussion/89193-output-2-noise-pretty-low.html


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