AM4 more expensive in Europe

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Another reason to release an Axe-Fx plugin. Same price for everyone. No shipping costs, no import duties. No bickering in the forum. Nothing but joy and love everywhere. World peace.

Do it, Fractal!

 

[ruso]

ok it s 150. check the maths above. it s still not worth it in my opinion

Here are your options:

1. Spend the extra $150

2. Pay someone in the US to purchase and ship one to you. You wouldn’t get a warranty and you’d be hard pressed to find someone to do this, especially for $150.

3. Purchase a round trip ticket and accommodations (way more than $150), and fly to the US, order one, and have it shipped to your hotel room (ain’t happening).

4. Buy one of the countless other modeling options available to you.

5. Continue complaining.

Personally, I’d pony up the extra $150 and purchase one and have the extra benefits of a three-year warranty and incredible customer service that G66 provides. The choice is yours.

 

[mehegama]

Here are your options:

1. Spend the extra $150

2. Pay someone in the US to purchase and ship one to you. You wouldn’t get a warranty and you’d be hard pressed to find someone to do this, especially for $150.

3. Purchase a round trip ticket and accommodations (way more than $150), and fly to the US, order one, and have it shipped to your hotel room (ain’t happening).

4. Buy one of the countless other modeling options available to you.

5. Continue complaining.

Personally, I’d pony up the extra $150 and purchase one and have the extra benefits of a three-year warrant and incredible customer service that G66 provides. The choice is yours.

These markups are way higher on the more expensive units. If you are fine paying them, good for you. These forums are to discuss these things. If you don't like my "complaining", mute me, pay the markups - problem solved.

 

[Peavey Herman]

OK, I m not sure you read the room very well

Considering the majority of people in this thread are expressing how G66 is worth it and correct in their pricing, this is a rather ironic statement.

No bickering in the forum.

That'll be the day...

@mehegama Maybe it's not so much your questioning the mark-up, but your tone. You come across as very opinionated and, dare I say it, rude and argumentative.

 

[BobXX]

OK let me do the maths again:
699*1.2 vat UK = 838
838+70 insurance = 908.8
There are no import duties in the EU and UK for electronic devices....

In EU VAT should be applied to product + all additional costs:
duties, customs clearance, handling, transportation, transport insurance, and the warranty service difference too.

Don't think handling, transportation and its insurance is "0 $", your figures are really too much optimistic.

3 yrs USA extension remains non-transferrable,
while EU warranty is transferrable (IMO great value) and AFAIK sustained by G66.
So, on the other hand, I expect G66 will have some discount, and not the full USA price.

Last but not least G66 isn't FAS,
it seems to be a distributor that have to pay it's own company costs, taxes and people.
They provide also technical support directly from people in Germany, paid by G66.
Everybody is happy of its quality and speed.

Anyway it's obvious everybody in Europe will be happy to have lower prices if they will find the way to optimize something.

In the meantime I don't discuss too much their price policy, I rather prefer technical discussions on improvements, wishes, hints, thanks to this Forum,
allowed and owned by FAS.

 

[unix-guy]

mute me

Mission accomplished!

 

[Rumbletone]

that s simply not a good enough reply. Why do i need to care about business expenses of a middleman that should not even exist in my opinion.

Have you ever been part of a non-EU business direct selling into the EU? In my experience the increase in the price for the current distribution model (including factoring in a profit margin for the EU distributor, unless you think they should do it for free ) is less than it would need to be for Fractal to sell direct.

And I say that as a Canadian who is almost always charged more for foreign products, even after factoring in the increase in hard costs, and has sought to understand the indirect business costs of selling into places like the EU and Canada where the compliance and other costs (minimum required warranty being just one) are, by design, higher than places like the US.

Of course you’re entitled to your opinion. But as someone who has been through getting products imported into and sold in the EU, I’m sometimes surprised anything foreign gets sold there at any cost!

 

[Dave Merrill]

mute me

Mission accomplished!

I'll go you one better, thread ignored, I'm done w this.

 

[ruso]

These markups are way higher on the more expensive units. If you are fine paying them, good for you.

The pricier the item, the higher the import costs, duties, shipping fees, etc. These are core concepts of basic economics. Yes, I am fine paying them. And that’s a choice. Nobody is forcing me to. Working at a small business for over a decade, I understand what goes into running the kind of business model G66 operates, and the markup is completely justified.

These forums are to discuss these things.

And I provided you with a comprehensive list of many, if not all your available options, adding to the discussion.

If you don't like my "complaining", mute me, pay the markups - problem solved.

I never said I “don’t like” your complaining. On the contrary, I enjoy watching people dig themselves into a hole while completely ignoring the basic concept of critical thinking.

 

[iaresee]

This thread has run it's course.