🔥Introducing the new AM4 Amp Modeler

FractalAudio said:
Then don't buy it. To come on here and declare "shocking stupid product planning" is beyond rude.
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As usual, the dissenting opinion is told to F-off. If you disagree with my opinion of the product planning, please explain the market for the AM-4 and the market for the FM3 and how they are different enough to warrant two products that are essentially similar.
 
ruso said:
Apples to oranges.
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Maybe, but both are amp/cab solutions and both are good enough to be considered accurate to the original amp/cab. What does modeling vs capturing have to do with it? It's all about the tone, feel and ease of getting out of it what you need to get out of it.
 
boyce89976 said:
As usual, the dissenting opinion is told to F-off. If you disagree with my opinion of the product planning, please explain the market for the AM-4 and the market for the FM3 and how they are different enough to warrant two products that are essentially similar.
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Nobody's telling your dissent to f--k off, they're telling your lack of manners to f--k off. People criticize things here all the time, respectfully and constructively.
 
boyce89976 said:
Maybe, but both are amp/cab solutions and both are good enough to be considered accurate to the original amp/cab. What does modeling vs capturing have to do with it? It's all about the tone, feel and ease of getting out of it what you need to get out of it.
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Show me how to adjust the treble (pre-clipping stage) on a capture of a Mesa Boogie Mark IV. I’ll wait.
 
I have a Tonex pedal. I got it to use for out of the house stuff. My AF3 stays in my home studio rack. I almost sold the Tonex right before they added the FX. Now its ok. The thing is, the only captures I use on it are ones I captured from my AF3. Yeah, I can see selling the Tonex and getting the real deal.
 
boyce89976 said:
As usual, the dissenting opinion is told to F-off. If you disagree with my opinion of the product planning, please explain the market for the AM-4 and the market for the FM3 and how they are different enough to warrant two products that are essentially similar.
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No one owes you an explanation of anything. It's not for you; we get it. Not every product will resonate with every person. Clearly, based on responses here alone, it resonates with many people.

Give it a rest.
 
boyce89976 said:
As usual, the dissenting opinion is told to F-off. If you disagree with my opinion of the product planning, please explain the market for the AM-4 and the market for the FM3 and how they are different enough to warrant two products that are essentially similar.
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Well...I have to chime in here.

I've never seen a music/audio-based company as involved/that listens to what the bulk of its customers say or request as carefully as Fractal Audio does, thus producing continuous, market-responsive innovation by Fractal (a-hem, free firmware updates anyone?) -- since before 2010.

Their product bets for almost two decades have all paid off well over these years, as far as I can tell.

Fractal may have competitors-- but IMHO it is unrivaled in amp modeling accuracy AND product features and design. I pinch myself sometimes on how good my Axe-Fx III is/what it can do.

So respectfully, while the new AM4 may not be what YOU @boyce89976 wanted to see (and that's okay, sorry you are disappointed), and yes, you don't have to buy one, my confidence in the company and it's customers and fans is pretty high that the AM4 has a "huge" market -- and will do just fine, just like the VP4 has since its release.

Ask yourself: do you really think Fractal Audio would gamble and invest in/put out the AM4, if its predecessor VP4 failed to meet their sales expectations in comparison to its big brother units?

What I especially like about the AM4 product is it continues the democratization of great guitar tone tools, and in a compact "airplane carry-on" size package.

Not every working musician or hobbyist guitar or bassist can afford a III+FC Controller, or an FM9, or even an FM3. The AM4 price point on this puts it more in reach for those folks.

As someone wisely pointed out above,"I can buy two UA amp pedals for the same amount of money as AM4, but I get no effects at all with them"...OR.... I can get a freakin' warehouse of 247+ amps just like those models found in the III/FM9/FM3 and also get most of the main Fractal product line effects, -- all for the price of 2 boutique pedals!!! And, if I want MORE effects, then I can add a VP4 later to complete the rig.

Da-yum. Christmas came early for those folks.

Just had to put my two cents in. If I'm a betting man, I'd bet on Fractal Audio to do it again - like their near-two decades track record suggests.
 
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austinbuddy said:
Well...I have to chime in here.

I've never seen a music/audio-based company has involved or that listens to what the bulk of its customers say or request as carefully as Fractal Audio does, thus producing continuous, market-responsive innovation by Fractal (a-hem, free firmware updates anyone?) -- since before 2010.

Their product bets for almost two decades have all paid off well over these years, as far as I can tell.

Fractal may have competitors-- but IMHO it is unrivaled in amp modeling accuracy AND product features and design. I pinch myself sometimes on how good my Axe-Fx III is/what it can do.

So respectfully, while the new AM4 may not be what YOU @boyce89976 wanted to see (and that's okay, sorry you are disappointed), and yes, you don't have to buy one, my confidence in the company and it's customers and fans is pretty high that the AM4 has a "huge" market -- and will do just fine, just like the VP4 has since its release.

Ask yourself: do you really think Fractal Audio would gamble and invest in/put out the AM4, if its predecessor VP4 failed to meet their sales expectations in comparison to its big brother units?

What I especially like about the AM4 product is it continues the democratization of great guitar tone tools, and in a compact "airplane carry-on" size package.

Not every working musician or hobbyist guitar or bassist can afford a III+FC Controller, or an FM9, or even an FM3. The AM4 price point on this puts it more in reach for those folks.

As someone wisely pointed out above,"I can buy two UA amp pedals for the same amount of money as AM4, but I get no effects at all with them"...OR.... I can get a freakin' warehouse of 247+ amps just like those models found in the III/FM9/FM3 and also get most of the main Fractal product line effects, -- all for the price of 2 boutique pedals!!! And, if I want MORE effects, then I can add a VP4 later to complete the rig.

Da-yum. Christmas came early for those folks.

Just had to put my two cents in. If I'm a betting man, I'd bet on Fractal Audio to do it again - like their near-two decades track record suggests.
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Very well said Buddy!
 
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