stevieraymurray
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Thank you so much for the comparison clips!
you’re welcome! it’s funny, i came up with that tone with the Mesa Trad originally, but i think i might actually prefer the 2x12 with it. Lol
Thank you so much for the comparison clips!
How does the 2x12 compare to the Mesa 4x12 Traditional?
Same question, wondering how the Trad 4x12 and even the Oversized 4x12 compare to this (I assume this will be a lot closer to the Trad). I comparison clip playing some riffs through all three would be great!
@York Audio Please, don't think for a single second that I´m trying to insult your worth or undervaluing your amazing work.
But your recent mesa 212 release with demo and full versions has made me think about something....
I only ever use mic mixes (yours and all other developers for many many years).
Because in my mind I´m not paying for "a mesa 4x12 ir pack" I´m paying for YOUR EARS and taste capturing those tones and mixing those captures.
And all the packs I have bought from you have been because of your really great sounding demos in your website that (correct me if im wrong) are always of the mixes.
I personally think that if I ever have the need to go out of the "mixes/summary/selection/best of/whatever" folder to get the tone I´m looking for then there is an inherent problem with the IR pack.
And I end up literally deleting forever 98% of the IRs included on every IR pack I have ever bought in the last decade.
It would be great to have 2 tiers of IR packs:
Light/Lite packs: just your mixes/developer special recipe/Chef´s choice IRs
and
Advance/tweaker packs: with all the options of many individual mics for those who go "all the way" experimenting and like to have as many tonal options as humanly possible to make their own special homemade tones.
Thanks for your attention and I will reiterate than I really appreciate all the hard work behind every IR pack
Justin I am loving all your new IR packs! I’ve basically switched completely to the Your IRs... I’ve found that since I have a lot of different sounds I’ve found that different packs work great for different amps. The Bogner, Zilla and new 2x12 Mesa work awesome on SLO and 5150 style amps. The 4x12 OS works great on the recto style amps and the 4x12 TRAD are absolutely stellar for the Mark series amps. Absolutely loving the VX, matchless and Deluxe verb packs for clean stuff too. Really looking forward to all the stuff you have coming. Keep up the great work!
This is a tricky one. From what I THINK I remember reading, some of the 4x12 Recto curves were taken a long time ago and the cab specifics weren't documented, so they're not sure which exact models were used for those curves. I could be completely off on this, but I wonder if the 4x12 Recto Small had 60 watt V30's in it instead of the 70's, because that curve doesn't feel quite right with my Trad without tweaking. I experimented a lot with it today and weirdly ended up loving the 4x12 Soldano curve with that cab and just let ride. It's probably not the most accurate, but it feels really good.MESA TRAD : 4x12 Recto Small ?
I’ve always thought that the corresponding curve was Recto Straight.
Do you know (and enlight me) what Small and Straight are standing for ?
Thanks !
The problem with the Lite concept with only mixes is that creating them involves all the work of taking the individual mic captures and evaluating them, plus all the work of creating the mixes.@York Audio Please, don't think for a single second that I´m trying to insult your worth or undervaluing your amazing work.
But your recent mesa 212 release with demo and full versions has made me think about something....
I only ever use mic mixes (yours and all other developers for many many years).
Because in my mind I´m not paying for "a mesa 4x12 ir pack" I´m paying for YOUR EARS and taste capturing those tones and mixing those captures.
And all the packs I have bought from you have been because of your really great sounding demos in your website that (correct me if im wrong) are always of the mixes.
I personally think that if I ever have the need to go out of the "mixes/summary/selection/best of/whatever" folder to get the tone I´m looking for then there is an inherent problem with the IR pack.
And I end up literally deleting forever 98% of the IRs included on every IR pack I have ever bought in the last decade.
It would be great to have 2 tiers of IR packs:
Light/Lite packs: just your mixes/developer special recipe/Chef´s choice IRs
and
Advance/tweaker packs: with all the options of many individual mics for those who go "all the way" experimenting and like to have as many tonal options as humanly possible to make their own special homemade tones.
Thanks for your attention and I will reiterate than I really appreciate all the hard work behind every IR pack
I could listen to a record of that all day long. Love the Thrice vibe and thought the mix sounded great! I’m gonna have to try that combo out. Thanks for sharing!I got super tweaky and created a preset using the VX cab on the left and DX on the right. All of these tracks are recorded in stereo and I only swapped L/R and gain staged them once they were in Logic. SUPER impressed with these and I just can't emphasize how amazing it is to get a tone that sounds and feels this great so I can forget about it and start writing and recording!
@York Audio Thanks again for the help over this past weekend with narrowing down the best approach to get what I'm after using the Deluxe cabs! (I'm Sam M.)
York Audio VX & DX Demo
I just tried it out and wouldn’t recommend guitar through that cab. Some older bass cabs work great for guitar (I have a couple on my to-do list), but this one really is just meant for bass. The horn brings out a lot of clarity for bass tones, but it’s just nasty with a guitar.Is anyone playing guitar through the Ampeg 4x10? The only talk of it I've seen has been for bass, and it might only be good/intended for that, but there certainly are 4x10s that are great for guitar.
Ah, you're right, didn't see that it had a horn, not nice for guitar.I just tried it out and wouldn’t recommend guitar through that cab. Some older bass cabs work great for guitar (I have a couple on my to-do list), but this one really is just meant for bass. The horn brings out a lot of clarity for bass tones, but it’s just nasty with a guitar.
Thanks for posting that. Just bought it, too.The $1 thing is a killer idea. I've always gravitated to non vintage 30 speakers, but how could I pass up an opportunity to give your version a shot for $1???
Thanks a lot everyone. I made another little clip with some different tones and styles using the same IR, Mix 01.
I used my Les Paul through the Matchbox D-30, Lonestar Clean, and USA Lead for the different tones. I hope you like them!
You are way too kind. I need to look back at my notes, but one of the mixes was made with the Petrucci tone in mind and I think it’s one of the SM7/condenser mic blends. I think the preset worked pretty well for that tone even with a Les Paul, but an SM7 with a Majesty guitar would take it over the top. I got to play @chris Majesty years ago, and that guitar definitely has a unique character to it.Dang, that first clip is just beautiful. And that last clip is better than any tone I’ve ever heard from Petrucci. Just my opinion. I think i might have a problem though. I check your website like 50 times a day hoping you’ve added a new cab. Lol
Thanks for the tones, brother!
You are way too kind. I need to look back at my notes, but one of the mixes was made with the Petrucci tone in mind and I think it’s one of the SM7/condenser mic blends. I think the preset worked pretty well for that tone even with a Les Paul, but an SM7 with a Majesty guitar would take it over the top. I got to play @chris Majesty years ago, and that guitar definitely has a unique character to it.
You are way too kind. I need to look back at my notes, but one of the mixes was made with the Petrucci tone in mind and I think it’s one of the SM7/condenser mic blends. I think the preset worked pretty well for that tone even with a Les Paul, but an SM7 with a Majesty guitar would take it over the top. I got to play @chris Majesty years ago, and that guitar definitely has a unique character to it.