Velociryan
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Sold my standard 2 weeks ago for $1500 locally to a guy that couldn't wait for a new one to be shipped to him. What are the standards going to be worth after today? $900, $1000?
I have legitimate concerns as a new purchaser that the support which has long been a HUGE selling point of these products is at risk.
just disappointment at the potential that my brand new fangled shiny product is not going to be supported in the manner it was yesterday
This is not true and I resent the personal attack, that's not cool. I have legitimate concerns as a new purchaser that the support which has long been a HUGE selling point of these products is at risk. I am not going against progress, could not give two shits about resale value and do not begrudge missing out on any of the hardware advances/items too advanced to run on my unit, no sour grapes here, just disappointment at the potential that my brand new fangled shiny product is not going to be supported in the manner it was yesterday and looking for the concerns to be addressed in some manner and official word from the manufacturer, although at times a little exaggerated anger on my part, I don't think I have been unfair in my statements. If you don't understand that as a legitimate consumer concern then I am sorry but you are burying head in fan-boi sand.
Sold my standard 2 weeks ago for $1500 locally to a guy that couldn't wait for a new one to be shipped to him. What are the standards going to be worth after today? $900, $1000?
Agreed. It is not unreasonable to be upset that our shiny new hardware cannot run the new G2 modeling technology, for example. Its similar to my PC; bought it in 2006 with XP and now it runs 64-bit Windows 7. Completely different OS's but same hardware. This is not the case here.
Well, 'support' and 'free upgrades' are not necessarily used interchangeably. It has been said that it will be supported in terms of bug fixes etc, so in that regard you will have support for the functionality that exists when you bought the unit. Otherwise I think many have taken the 'free upgrades' part for granted and lumped that in with the 'support' moniker when, in fact, it's not quite the same thing.
I haven't seen the mass sell-off like the Ultra. I think most people who buy a Standard do so because they don't want to pony up the extra $$$ for an Ultra. My guess is that the used Standard price will be ~$300-$400 below whatever the used Ultra market levels off at.
Apples and oranges. Your OS isn't expected to push your PC to its limits on its own. Otherwise how would you be able to run any additional applications? However, since the DSP on the AxeFX is specialized and there isn't the overhead of a separate OS between the firmware code and the processor, the firmware code can push the DSP to its limits and, perhaps, the G2 code does it to the extent that it requires a more then the single processor on the older AxeFX models.
Again I get it and I understand, progress and all that but come on, you gotta see where somebody such as myself is coming from. Like I said, I would hope anything technically capable of running on the hardware would be included in future Ultra/Standard updates.
Cliff, you can't believe what a sigh of relief this post has given me!! I had gotten that point of view from quotes on this forum & I guess forum users have been mis-quoting you in that case. I would imagine we'd all be grateful if at some point you could clear up what the future will be for the Ultra with some sort of official announcement? My hope is that Ultra users now will be in much the same position Standard users were in when the Ultra first came out (that would seem logical to me). I just couldn't get my head around this idea that the Ultra had 'matured' & was being left as is. ...I'm glad to find that that was obviously bogus information.
i think its fair to say many of us have a valid point here, there are so many upset folks. ( THE ONLY BOX YOULL EVER NEED) erm but you will need the next one for future updates?
Yes, insider trading is unethical & also illegal
I have held-back on buying an Ultra for a while now because of the belief that something like this was going to happen. I will now buy the Axe-FX II. The whining going-on is ridiculous. Go sell yours on eBay, take a bit of a loss and stop expecting Cliff, as generous as he is with his free updates, to bend over backwards more than he already has and does. If he offers a trade-in program that'd be great, but if not you should think twice before grilling the guy on this forum. He was likely in a "can't please everyone" scenario with this release. I, for one, think he did it in an honorable way. He incorporated many of the requests from his customers into the new product, is selling it at a great price... sheesh, give him a break.
thats because you havn't bought one recently.. and bending over backwards??? or improving his product was part of the deal!!!!!!!!!!