Control the FM9 via Wireless MIDI and a ______________?

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Alex Kerezy

Inspired
Hi,
Considering an FM9 vs. QC. I am convinced the sound quality and number of fx blocks are much better from the Fractal product. I play violin so the number/quality of amps and cabs is not so important to me.

However - for some gigs - the slightly bigger size comes into play. (Please kindly don't tell me a few inches don't matter)

QUESTION: Given that -- I run my audio input wirelessly into the FM9 ---
what are the options for wirelessly controlling the FM9? I think this would predominantly mean scene control /change, I would set up and test out my scenes and presets before a gig, and then move or place the FM9 under or by the sound table (or close to the PA system): while I would be walking around at the gig..... however..... still needing to change scenes.

  • Unfortunately I have an Android phone (FYI)
  • Although I do some scene changes in the middle of a song; I don't need split second scene change control - meaning if I had a portable scene changer on my phone I could hold the violin with one hand, and press some buttons on my phone, or uh on a device (of some sort) to change scenes
I saw a similar post: https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/wireless-midi-scenes-use-case.214452/
But keep me honest, it seems devices like: https://luminitefx.com/ seemingly require A/C power, and then I would have to put it on the floor somewhere, and make my way over to it, to step on a footswitch and have it wirelessly send a MIDI message to do a scene change - correct???

Any other battery powered type device options that would wirelessly send (MIDI) messages to the FM9 to change scenes?

Has anyone tried powering something like the luminifex via batteries?

Can you even actually send Wireless MIDI Messages via an Android phone?

Thanks!!
AJ
 
Yes, those should work. They appear to just send a WIDI type signal via Bluetooth. I use this WIDI device to send MIDI commands to my FM9. It is powered through the MIDI port and has been very reliable. I am not doing what you are doing, but we have an iPad which is running StageTraxx in one of my bands and I just program the MIDI commands into that. I'm pretty much just doing preset and scene change instructions.

https://www.amazon.com/CME-WIDI-Master-Synthesizer-Pedalboard/dp/B08F8F57JX
 
Alex Kerezy said:
I saw a similar post: https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/wireless-midi-scenes-use-case.214452/
But keep me honest, it seems devices like: https://luminitefx.com/ seemingly require A/C power, and then I would have to put it on the floor somewhere, and make my way over to it, to step on a footswitch and have it wirelessly send a MIDI message to do a scene change - correct???

Any other battery powered type device options that would wirelessly send (MIDI) messages to the FM9 to change scenes?

Has anyone tried powering something like the luminifex via batteries?

Can you even actually send Wireless MIDI Messages via an Android phone?

Thanks!!
AJ
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With the Luminite controller, you can send a message wirelessly using their small XY switcher. I keep it on a money clip on my guitar strap so I can switch Scenes etc. from anywhere on the stage. I hard wire the Luminite M1 to my Fractal units, but you could use a CME Widi Master to do that wirelessly also. And you can power the Luminite M1 from a USB battery pack if you want to.
 
I use BandHelper and a WIDI Thru6BT. You can put your set list in band helper and set it up to select the Preset/Scene as you go threw. It can also set the tempo for each song and set the Virtual Capo for different tunings. It works great.

With that being said, I do not trust Bluetooth for the range you are talking about and would probably try something like this
midiBeam v2 Wireless
"The system is able to transfer standard MIDI messages to a maximum of 250+ meter distance safely, with less than a minimum latency."
It would be perfect if pack could receive Bluetooth but it looks like you would need a Female 5-Pin MIDI to usb converter.
 
AXEMike said:
I use BandHelper and a WIDI Thru6BT. You can put your set list in band helper and set it up to select the Preset/Scene as you go threw. It can also set the tempo for each song and set the Virtual Capo for different tunings. It works great.

With that being said, I do not trust Bluetooth for the range you are talking about and would probably try something like this
midiBeam v2 Wireless
"The system is able to transfer standard MIDI messages to a maximum of 250+ meter distance safely, with less than a minimum latency."
It would be perfect if pack could receive Bluetooth but it looks like you would need a Female 5-Pin MIDI to usb converter.
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Everything I play is ad hoc/ free form. So I don't know ahead. I do have about 6 or so preset or unique sounds that I use.

I wonder about tap tempo, for delays.
 
Alex Kerezy said:
Everything I play is ad hoc/ free form. So I don't know ahead. I do have about 6 or so preset or unique sounds that I use.

I wonder about tap tempo, for delays.
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BandHelper has tempo built into the song (that sets all of the delay effects) on the set list but does not have a good way to tap it in live. For completely AdHoc MIDI commander might work better for that.
 
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