🔥Introducing ICONS - Amp Modeling + FX - Plugins & Standalone

[Morphine]

This is a very cool new product(s) that has been asked for over and over for many years (and quite honestly I was incredibly surprised it was actually happening), and I feel like there's a lot of unwarranted complaints about what it can't/doesn't do rather than appreciating what it can do.

Some folks have a hard time being okay with the fact that they're not going to be the target demographic for every product that a company releases.

This product most definitely isn't for me. But I am excited about the possibilities that come with Fractal finally getting into this part of the market.

 

[unix-guy]

One thing I have noticed on this forum is that Fractal users really like to responsive feel of the FM9 ( FM3 etc ... ) is anybody noticing a difference in feel of the plug-in ICONS software? I realize this could also be drastically a different experience by latency issues if not properly set up.... just curious.

Nope...

 

[lauke-lux]

This is no different than any other plugin...


Not sure what you're referring to...

Ah indeed,
I'm not using a lot DAW so have no idea what is the latency of any plugin, sorry.

The point of the audio-interface refers to the post of pina on page 17 of this thread. Rereading it I found the citation dates of 2008.... so just forget that one

 

[zebric21]

Should be enough for a guitar plugin

If you still use windows balanced energy mode it might not be enough!

 

[Joe Rogers]

That would be awesome! I think a few of the popular low budget interfaces (I think Focusrite Scarlett is the most used) should be considered for optimal calibration suggestions

I actually have a Volt2:

1) Engage Instrument switch
2) Turn Volt channel Input Gain all the way down
3) Set plugin Input Gain to about +9.7dB

This was for my Ibanez Strat copy with single coils, and I'm heavy handed.

 

[Joker069]

Is anyone else getting system overload errors in the plug when cycling presets with a track playing?

My computer can run some pretty involved projects and I don’t get this issue with other amp sim plugs when cycling their presets on an active tracks

I have zero issues tweaking a preset live once selected, but trying to click between presets on an active track is consistently throwing errors.

I have the same issue on Logic (Mac mini M4 Thaoe 26.2 last version). When cycling presets while playing the DI, it get a system overload.
Only one DI track and one instance of INCONS, nothing else, no other plugin.
It seems it does not happen all the time but at least 50% of the time.
Not happening with other plugin like paradise.

On as side note I also lost USB audio on my FM3 for some reasons while FM3 Edit was working fine (was trying to use USB 3 and 4 as the interface for ICONS).
But I fixed that with USB plug directly to the Mac instead of my Hub (that worked fine before).

EDIT: Did not mention that the system overload error happens at any buffer size I tried (even up to 512). I normally use 64 with no issue

 

[m4ssi]

Personally i am not interested in plugins, but i really hope the graphics will be implemented in the next gen products!

 

[Admin M@]

The included cabs are those "matching" the included amps...

It's also very possible to disable the ICONS Cab block and follow it with the Cab-Lab plugin. We're working on stereo input processing mode for Cab-Lab to make this even better.

 

[Joe Rogers]

I have the same issue on Logic (Mac mini M4 Thaoe 26.2 last version). When cycling presets while playing the DI, it get a system overload.
Only one DI track and one instance of INCONS, nothing else, no other plugin.
It seems it does not happen all the time but at least 50% of the time.
Not happening with other plugin like paradise.

On as side note I also lost USB audio on my FM3 for some reasons while FM3 Edit was working fine (was trying to use USB 3 and 4 as the interface for ICONS).
But I fixed that with USB plug directly to the Mac instead of my Hub (that worked fine before).

EDIT: Did not mention that the system overload error happens at any buffer size I tried (even up to 512). I normally use 64 with no issue

Engineering is looking into this issue. Thank you for the report.

 

[Whizzinby]

I have the same issue on Logic (Mac mini M4 Thaoe 26.2 last version). When cycling presets while playing the DI, it get a system overload.
Only one DI track and one instance of INCONS, nothing else, no other plugin.
It seems it does not happen all the time but at least 50% of the time.
Not happening with other plugin like paradise.

EDIT: Did not mention that the system overload error happens at any buffer size I tried (even up to 512). I normally use 64 with no issue

Yeah, I’d say I’m getting it about 75% of the time I cycle a preset on an active track. Makes auditioning presets a PITA.

 

[Jozsef Kiss]

According to my understanding!
The Re-amp function in the Plugin edition?
Am I understanding correctly?

 

[DangMe]

I’m trying to decide between volume 1 or volume 3. I play a lot of chicken pickin’(country) and roots music. Which one do you guys recommend?

 

[steveforward]

would love to know what volumes are next? A Bletchley Park collection? (Marshalls) or Metal Heaven pack? some amps I'd love to see come across would be Marshall JMP-1 (big one for me), 1959SLP, Brown Sound, ENGL, 5150, 2203. The Fenders sound amazing, but they're not really my thing. Would love to try these out though.

 

[Bodde]

The Re-amp function in the Plugin edition?
Am I understanding correctly?

Why do you need re-amping in a plugin?

 

[vangrieg]

Why do you need re-amping in a plugin?

Why does anybody need reamping in general?

You record something with whatever sound you have set up, record a DI track, and then reamp to better fit the mix. How is a plugin different?

Plugins make this much easier and faster, but the use case is the same. You don't need to worry too much about tone while recording and deal with it later.

 

[Admin M@]

I’m trying to decide between volume 1 or volume 3. I play a lot of chicken pickin’(country) and roots music. Which one do you guys recommend?

Why not Vol. 4?

 

[DangMe]

Why not Vol. 4?

I dunno, which one do you recommend?

 

[javajunkie]

If you still use windows balanced energy mode it might not be enough!

My processors are OC'd to the point of meltdown . Custom Performance Plan.

 

[Admin M@]

Why do you need re-amping in a plugin?

Let me to answer this in a way that is helpful and friendly for those reading along who might not be as tuned in as others.

In the traditional sense, re-amping means recording a DI signal first, then later sending it out into a real amp which you adjust and then record (or, if you find it needs "work" later, adjust and re-recrod... and re-record... and so on.) I've seen it used so guitar tracks can be laid down first and then "re-engineered" around what emerges as the wildly unpredictable drumkit+bass sound that will take days or even weeks to land. The opposite approach would be to mic a guitar amp and print it to "tape". Done. Final.

Now, with a plugin, you’re always recording a DI signal. The amp is virtual. So technically, what you’re doing is more like instant, internal re-amping. You can change amps, cabs, effects—anything—after the fact, without re-recording.

So asking why a plugin needs re-amping is a bit like asking why a word processor needs an eraser. It doesn't. The flexibility to make changes is inherently built into the newer concept.

 

[Forever Again]

Engineering is looking into this issue. Thank you for the report.

Logic 12 is a HOG. Not sure what it is, but my projects ran fine in logic 11 and after this update, I get system overloads all the time. It did improve a little bit after restarting my machine fwiw.

Now only if I had a backup of Logic 11 Guess you gotta learn at some point.