🔥Introducing ICONS - Amp Modeling + FX - Plugins & Standalone

Sorry, but I have to ask, why didn’t you just create a full scale Axe FX plugin like Helix Native? I’ve been wanting an Axe FX plugin for years, and this is a huge disappointment unfortunately.
Gotta start somewhere. They have more planned. You'll just need to wait a big longer.
 
Thanks for the precise answer! While I have your attention, I have a few questions:
1/ Single Plugin: Can you confirm future collections will be added to the same ICONS plugin (rather than one plugin per collection) to allow for cumulative use of all FX/DynaCab HD?
2/ Long-term Support: Can you provide reassurance regarding OS compatibility for the next 10 years (even without major upgrades)?
3/ Dynamic Pricing: To avoid customers waiting for a "Complete Collection" bundle, will you offer a "complete your bundle" discount so that previous purchases are deducted from the final bundle price?
4/ Please can you add APPLE PAY purchase instant button? I hesitate a lot less using it!
I just read on the gear forum that you’ll try to offer a demo. That’s great news, I’m very grateful for your effort to open FAS tech to studio dudes (and bedroom too) and not having to join waiting list for some countries.

2/ Long-term Support: Can you provide reassurance regarding OS compatibility for the next 10 years (even without major upgrades)?

No one can promise that.
 
I know this is going to come off as a bit whiny, but how about an even deeper discount for existing Fractal customers?? I'm sure several of us don't really "need" the plugins but are always looking to throw some extra dollars Fractal's way given the amazing service, support and constant updates. A limited time offer for us lifetime Fractal users would go a long ways to tipping some of us over the "I don't know if I can justify the spend?" discussion we're having in our heads to, "I might not need it, but I want it and for that price, of course I'm going to have it". Anyways, love the look - can't wait to give it a go once the trial is available!!
 
I mean - you can mock me - but I still don’t know why it happened.
It was a joke. Boris Badenov was one of the villains on the Rocky and Bullwinkle show.

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They also had Fractal reverb plug in a long time before but i think it was discontinued. For reason i don't know cause i wasn't around to FAS camp then.
I thought about it a couple of times but never bought for some reasons I can’t remember now. I don’t think it had all the fractal reverbs, there was no trial, and after all there’s like a gazillion reverbs available anyway. But maybe I’m misremembering. Just didn’t make much practical sense the way it was packaged and priced.
 
They also had Fractal reverb plug in a long time before but i think it was discontinued. For reason i don't know cause i wasn't around to FAS camp then.
That’s what I was referring to.
Actually, if they had released a plugin featuring all the amps and effects—basically an AM4 in software form—at a price point that clearly sets it apart from the hardware (say, around €500 to account for the lack of manufacturing and distribution costs), I have no doubt it would have found its audience in the long run. Not just impulsive, short-lived purchases like the Neural DSP Archetypes, but a true 'go-to' for enthusiasts with a solid reputation that justifies the price.

For now, I think many people are going to wait for more comprehensive 'all-in-one' offers to appear after they've bought the specific packs they're interested in. This 'Ă  la carte' sales approach for the AM4 Studio is a bit of a gamble... I just hope FAS (Fractal Audio Systems) doesn't get discouraged by the sales figures and abandon this momentum. I really like the fact that they've entered a new, borderless, and instantaneous market; it could truly give plugin amps the prestige they deserve. To me, Fractal is the gold standard.

We’ll see, but I think the Mesa and Cali bundles will sell much more easily and give them the boost they need to release the full collection. Personally, I’m dreaming of a pricing model where you buy the first bundle for €300, the second for €150, then €100, then €50... It would bring the total to over €1,000, but the financial effort required to get the new releases would be much easier to manage.
 
I’ve only made it through 6 of 15 pages, so forgive me if this was already asked/answered…

I remember years ago one of the concerns around releasing a plug-in was keeping Fractal’s modeling algorithms secret. Is it correct to assume that concern has been addressed?
 
I remember years ago one of the concerns around releasing a plug-in was keeping Fractal’s modeling algorithms secret. Is it correct to assume that concern has been addressed?
Actually, no, ICONS includes a free copy of the unencrypted source code for the Axe-Fx III!

Kidding of course but I think you can figure out the answer easily enough -- if this was ever actually really a key question.
 
I’ve only made it through 6 of 15 pages, so forgive me if this was already asked/answered…

I remember years ago one of the concerns around releasing a plug-in was keeping Fractal’s modeling algorithms secret. Is it correct to assume that concern has been addressed?
Yes I don’t know if pirates can found the algorithms etc ..

Well, I was more expecting real pedals and gear from fractal when I heard about a surprise. Not for me, but maybe some new people will try fractal audio stuff

Also helix native didn’t sound like the helix, I don’t know if it is the case here . Time to have someone doing a/b between plugin vs axe 3 !
 
Time to have someone doing a/b between plugin vs axe 3 !
ICONS sounds so much like the Axe-Fx III that I constantly needed to look and make sure I have the EMPTY preset loaded.

One consideration: the DynaCab HD cabs are entirely new sets of data made in a different way/time/place. If you want an actual apples-to-apples comparison, load a User Cab IR.
 
Yes I don’t know if pirates can found the algorithms etc ..

Well, I was more expecting real pedals and gear from fractal when I heard about a surprise. Not for me, but maybe some new people will try fractal audio stuff

Also helix native didn’t sound like the helix, I don’t know if it is the case here . Time to have someone doing a/b between plugin vs axe 3 !

ICONS definitely has that Fractal thing just like the hardwares! I played with the new 6G3 in ICONS (along with all of the others) and with the one in axe-fx 3 / FM9 / AM4 and all sounds pretty much the same to me and i love that amp!
 
My only source point on this milestone and I’m sure huge win for the FAS team is the mics missing from the HW Dynacab, that stings a bit but huge kudos and wishing success, I can imagine this as an entry to the HW tbh
 
ICONS sounds so much like the Axe-Fx III that I constantly needed to look and make sure I have the EMPTY preset loaded.

One consideration: the DynaCab HD cabs are entirely new sets of data made in a different way/time/place. If you want an actual apples-to-apples comparison, load a User Cab IR.

How is CPU performance? Plugins of course usually require multiple instances in a DAW at once - are these ICONIC plugins made with that in mind?
 
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