FM3 Firmware Version 10.0

  • New Feature in Final:
    A Soft Reset function was added to the Amp block. It lets you reset deep model parameters without losing Gain, Tone, or GEQ settings—ideal when models are remastered.
What does 'reset deep model parameters' mean and can anyone hear the diff when A/B'd with no re set?
 
cragginshred said:
  • New Feature in Final:
    A Soft Reset function was added to the Amp block. It lets you reset deep model parameters without losing Gain, Tone, or GEQ settings—ideal when models are remastered.
What does 'reset deep model parameters' mean and can anyone hear the diff when A/B'd with no re set?
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@yek has already updated the wiki. See the bottom of the "SOFT Reset" section here: https://wiki.fractalaudio.com/wiki/index.php?title=Amp_block#SOFT_reset_.28re-select.29
 
Ok here is the last part on the Wiki, it's not that they were changed it's that the re set takes them to where the new ones should be I guess.
Whether there is any tonal change remains to be heard!

IMPORTANT NOTE! As of firmware 26.06, a new SOFT RESET command has been added to the Amp block, on hardware and in editor. This resets everything, except the controls that are present on the original amp. So gain, tone controls, master, depth, presence, speaker parameters, output EQ, etc. are left unchanged. This single command makes it much easier ****to make sure that an amp model uses the latest parameters values (visible and hidden), but doesn't touch the specific settings that the user has dialed in. This command works on the current channel. To perform this soft reset on multiple presets and all Amp blocks in those presets, use the Reset command in the editor's Manage Presets tool.
 
I love all the new stuff! Great update. I am curious why it seems like I am no longer able to control compression ratio with modifiers as I have been doing. I use an expression pedal to to go from non-distorted to distorted sounds and use it adjust the ratio as well. Hopefully that is a feature that will be brought back again. I would also love to see the ability to control presence with modifiers in the future. But quite pleased with everything else for the most part.
 
cragginshred said:
Ok thank you for complete sentences and providing examples! So this question remains that is not covered anywhere -
If I do Not do the re set will the new updates still be applied?
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The new Amp block algorithms (the way the Amp block works) will be applied just by installing the firmware. That's the main job of new firmware. But the new default parameter values will not be applied to your presets, because new firmware doesn't change your presets. You're the only one who's allowed to do that. :) Well, you and the reset function are allowed to do that, should you decide to do the reset.

Let's say you have a real tube amp, and you've discovered that 2.8 is the sweet spot for master volume. That's your default setting. Then you take the tube amp to a tech to be modified. When it comes back, you discover that 3.1 is the new sweet spot, and 2.8 sounds wrong now, so 3.1 is your new default. You have to apply that new default yourself. When you make that change, you've "reset" your amp settings.
 
I don't know if this is a bug or just a 1 time glitch but, I did the soft reset procedure detailed by Leon last evening. It did not go well. The procedure got stuck on preset #431 IIRC. I was watching Steve Fryette's lastest video & had the reset running in the background & didn't notice until there were weird LOUD noises coming from the speakers connected to the FM3. After an hour or so I decided to intervene. When I did the FM3 decided to reinstall the Dynacab firmware. After this completed I rebooted the FM3 & checked preset 431 & sure enough The CPU limit was exceeded. I was disappointed that a lot of my presets that were running in the 60% CPU range now exceed the CPU limits. Although the amps seem better, there are definitely some compromises in other places with this update it appears. Here's the preset after I turned the dispersion down.
 

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cragginshred said:
What does 'reset deep model parameters' mean...?
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Deep model parameters are the parameters in the Amp block that most people don't normally mess with, because they're not part of a real tube amp's knobs. The reset will set those parameters to the new defaults. Some of those parameters don't even have controls you can get to. They can only be tweaked by Cliff and the other engineers at Fractal. And the reset function. :)

cragginshred said:
...and can anyone hear the diff when A/B'd with no re set?
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Some differences are more audible than others. Can you hear the difference with your presets? It's easy to find out. Make a copy of one of your presets. Apply the reset to the copy, and SAVE it. Then compare the two side by side.
 
tmingle said:
I don't know if this is a bug or just a 1 time glitch but, I did the soft reset procedure detailed by Leon last evening. It did not go well. The procedure got stuck on preset #431 IIRC. I was watching Steve Fryette's lastest video & had the reset running in the background & didn't notice until there were weird LOUD noises coming from the speakers connected to the FM3. After an hour or so I decided to intervene. When I did the FM3 decided to reinstall the Dynacab firmware. After this completed I rebooted the FM3 & checked preset 431 & sure enough The CPU limit was exceeded. I was disappointed that a lot of my presets that were running in the 60% CPU range now exceed the CPU limits. Although the amps seem better, there are definitely some compromises in other places with this update it appears. Here's the preset after I turned the dispersion down.
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Did you not read the release notes? Or any of this thread? Or the one before it?
 
tad0684 said:
Did you not read the release notes? Or any of this thread? Or the one before it?
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Yeah, I read them. I wasn't surprised about the CPU limits. I was surprised about all the strange noises coming from the unit. I was reporting this as a possible issue.
 
tmingle said:
Yeah, I read them. I wasn't surprised about the CPU limits. I was surprised about all the strange noises coming from the unit. I was reporting this as a possible issue.
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The factory Presets live in the range 0-384, so if there is a problem at Preset 431, this is likely one of your own presets (or maybe a paid for preset).

See if you can edit it before running the soft reset process. Remove any unneeded FX and shunts, and change (lower) the reverb quality and diffusion/density settings.

Load an empty preset before running the process, and try again ... don't do/play/use the FM3 for anything else whilst the process is running.
 
Doogz said:
The factory Presets live in the range 0-384, so if there is a problem at Preset 431, this is likely one of your own presets (or maybe a paid for preset).

See if you can edit it before running the soft reset process. Remove any unneeded FX and shunts, and change (lower) the reverb quality and diffusion/density settings.

Load an empty preset before running the process, and try again ... don't do/play/use the FM3 for anything else whilst the process is running
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I went thru all presets & found 8-10 with CPU overloads. I adjusted as advised & was able to complete the process. I'd love to know why the unit freaked out though. I played for 1/2 hr or so tonight with no issues.
 
tmingle said:
I went thru all presets & found 8-10 with CPU overloads. I adjusted as advised & was able to complete the process. I'd love to know why the unit freaked out though. I played for 1/2 hr or so tonight with no issues.
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Do you have an original FM3 or a Turbo? Also, just checking whether you loaded the brand new factory presets (which are optimised for the latest firmware, and well worth installing IMHO), or were you running the old presets?
 
Doogz said:
Do you have an original FM3 or a Turbo? Also, just checking whether you loaded the brand new factory presets (which are optimised for the latest firmware, and well worth installing IMHO), or were you running the old presets?
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Its the original FM3.
I did load the new presets & adjusted a few. As far as reverbs are concerned, I generally stick with the default settings.
I am strictly a home player & have only used the footswitches when I 1st received the unit & tested all functionality.
 
Sorry to bother but about the soft reset… 😅😅

Do I need to do it for all my presets?
All my live presets are based on the same amps (deluxe and 59slp)
Do I just need to resave all the presets once the sod reset has been done in all channel on my main preset?

Sorry again. Thanxs
 
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