Which other 24-fret superstrats hold up to the fretwork, playability, and quality of a Suhr Modern?

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This. I think the Aristides is as stable as any other guitar. The neck is pretty stiff from the perspective of the truss rod. They tend to be dead flat at string tension with the truss rod in the neutral position. This is fine because you can add relief from the rod. This gives you some idea.
 
I heard they tend to go flat when unplayed and need to be “warmed up” back to pitch, and sometimes can be sharp. How true is this? Have you ever measured it with a tuner?
This is true. And kind of weird. However it's highly predictable and therefore easy to live. Once it's been played for 10 minutes it stays put as well as anything. The solution is Aristides plus Evertune.

Having said that the H/0 headless is just the most ergonomic playable instrument I ever laid hands on. The neck profile just perfect. As is the build.
 
Nothing ever will beat my 21 fret 1986 japan Squier😭😭 (just kidding) but at least I can leave it in a bar floor stage for a set break.

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Anderson are the best guitars one can get on earth IMHO, I'd love to have one. Even though my eyes prefer Suhr's headstocks
 
This is true. And kind of weird. However it's highly predictable and therefore easy to live. Once it's been played for 10 minutes it stays put as well as anything. The solution is Aristides plus Evertune.

Having said that the H/0 headless is just the most ergonomic playable instrument I ever laid hands on. The neck profile just perfect. As is the build.
Neither of mine do this . They are very particular to intonate though but that is because when you play them acoustically you hear every single overtone. I agree about the H/O 6. I have mine out the whole time .
I have come across people having issues with tuning stability in the H/O but that was always down to the locks not being tightened properly or the strings being fitted in a way that they ended up twisted to the side in the lock nut or the mk1 tuners. The mk2 tuners are far easier to string up and don’t have this issue at the bridge. I would say that the headless locknuts on most headless guitars could do with something to stop the strings moving when you lock them up. The most stable instrument I own is my very early Steinberger hardtail. It doesn’t move at all ever. Once the strings are stretched you won’t need touch it.
 
Neither of mine do this . They are very particular to intonate though but that is because when you play them acoustically you hear every single overtone. I agree about the H/O 6. I have mine out the whole time .
I have come across people having issues with tuning stability in the H/O but that was always down to the locks not being tightened properly or the strings being fitted in a way that they ended up twisted to the side in the lock nut or the mk1 tuners. The mk2 tuners are far easier to string up and don’t have this issue at the bridge. I would say that the headless locknuts on most headless guitars could do with something to stop the strings moving when you lock them up. The most stable instrument I own is my very early Steinberger hardtail. It doesn’t move at all ever. Once the strings are stretched you won’t need touch it.
Understood. But a lot of them do. Known issue and discussed directly with Aristides.
I suspected the Hantug bridge for a while but probably only cos it was the first time I'd had one but they think not. It doesn't seem to be temperature or humidity - something to do with being moved is my best guess - but it's a guess. The drift is minor - probably many players wouldn't even notice it - I am super-fussy on tuning including intonation of course. I'll measure it in cents shortly - I just did - around 10c on a drop D string, 6c on the A and 4c on the D. I tune using a combination of the AxeFX and my ears. But it's consistent. So to be specific if I left it in tune and next day picked it up and didn't tune it after 10 minutes it would be right where it was - and in tune.

And one other feature of this - lower the pitch the more drift. So the unwound strings really barely shift at all.

To be clear - this is no big deal and significantly more stable than many lumps of wood I have owned! And do please note this is coming from an extremely fussy owner! It's just a very weird phenomena that no one has yet explained. In every other way the guitar is 6 string player perfection but the aesthetics aren't going to be to everyone's taste.
 
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I don't get along well with statements like that. It's all down to the individual guitars in that price range.

Re: the Vai guitars, the only thing wrong with my PIA was that I got tired of the looks of it, other than that it was virtually flawless.

For now, I have a couple of Suhrs. Had an Anderson prior to that for a couple of weeks but it had some weird oscillation going on that I couldn't be bothered to diagnose after a point, and a skilled luthier I took it to said that for the money I paid he wouldn't advise me asking him to get into it either, so it went back.

YMMV.

Anyway, this is what I'm into currently.


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Is the black one from guitarguitar? I must have come home from work and loaded up that page every day for a month and looked at that guitar, would have bought it but for the reverse headstock! Looks great, nice flame top. The blue one is stunning also. I don’t get Suhr’s obsession with pau ferro fretboards on a lot of their non-custom guitars, ebony and maple are much nicer. I’m not that impressed with their choice of finishes/specs on their standard lines of guitars either, the only nice Suhrs I’ve seen are customs. Will wait and see what GG and Peach get in next year.

I’ve got an Anderson Guardian Angel being built at the moment, really looking forward to that. But after that, was thinking about a custom Modern - how are you liking them? Aldrich pickups in the black one right?

And to complete the trio of owning guitars from my holy grail builders, I’d like to pick up a Tyler, though it will have to be a Tyler Japan because the US ones are just too expensive now, just waiting for guitarguitar to get one in the spec I want. Could be waiting a while though, not even sure what’s happening with the Japan line, the page disappeared from Tyler’s website for a while and I’m not sure if GG will be getting any more, which I guess is good for my bank balance!

I had a Jem, felt really self-conscious playing it so sold it. Plus my taste in guitars has mellowed as I’ve got older.
 
I don’t get Suhr’s obsession with pau ferro fretboards on a lot of their non-custom guitars, ebony and maple are much nicer. I’m not that impressed with their choice of finishes/specs on their standard lines of guitars either, the only nice Suhrs I’ve seen are customs.
I think both of those are entirely personal tastes.

I have a Suhr Modern Exclusive (Eddie's Guitars) with a Pau Ferro fretboard and I quite like it.

It's very similar to the roasted maple fretboards on my DK-24s and the Musikraft neck on the Tele I just built from parts.

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I've seen plenty of "standard" Suhr guitars that are outstanding visually and nicely spec'd.

But these are my own tastes.
 
I've sold my Suhr for a Ibanez Az, I sold my AZ for a Tom Anderson and wouldn't change a thing.
There is a point of diminishing returns, and could've been very happy with the AZ for a long time though
 
Curious about the pricing on these. Beautiful looking guitars.
For us lucky folks here in the ripoff Britain, Angels seem to start from around £4.5k and head on up from there. On the Peach Guitars website -which is the UK's only Anderson dealer - Angels range from £4.5k for a solid finish to £5.8k for the fancy stuff. Suhr Modern Customs are around 10% cheaper for an equivalent spec, and the US Tyler Studio Elites are an astronomical £6-7k+, with Tyler Japans slightly cheaper than a Suhr Custom. I have sold 3 guitars this year to fund the Anderson. Some of the comments about the consistency of Anderson guitars in this thread have been very reassuring for what is by far my most expensive guitar purchase.
 
Regarding Andersons, if you can live with no top wood, Angel Player is probably about $800-1000 cheaper than a regular Angel.
 
For us lucky folks here in the ripoff Britain, Angels seem to start from around £4.5k and head on up from there. On the Peach Guitars website -which is the UK's only Anderson dealer - Angels range from £4.5k for a solid finish to £5.8k for the fancy stuff. Suhr Modern Customs are around 10% cheaper for an equivalent spec, and the US Tyler Studio Elites are an astronomical £6-7k+, with Tyler Japans slightly cheaper than a Suhr Custom. I have sold 3 guitars this year to fund the Anderson. Some of the comments about the consistency of Anderson guitars in this thread have been very reassuring for what is by far my most expensive guitar purchase.
I am confident that you will be pleased your custom Anderson. I own two and have played a handful of others. They were all very good. Tom Anderson does the final QC and plays every single guitar before it leaves the shop.

I am already thinking about what options I will select for the guitar I intend to order next spring.
 
For us lucky folks here in the ripoff Britain, Angels seem to start from around £4.5k and head on up from there. On the Peach Guitars website -which is the UK's only Anderson dealer - Angels range from £4.5k for a solid finish to £5.8k for the fancy stuff. Suhr Modern Customs are around 10% cheaper for an equivalent spec, and the US Tyler Studio Elites are an astronomical £6-7k+, with Tyler Japans slightly cheaper than a Suhr Custom. I have sold 3 guitars this year to fund the Anderson. Some of the comments about the consistency of Anderson guitars in this thread have been very reassuring for what is by far my most expensive guitar purchase.
Another good thing about Anderson is that their guitars are consistently quite light, around 6.7lbs-7.4lbs. My Angel is 6.9lbs. On the other hand, Suhr Moderns for example, tend to hover around 8lbs. I'm quite picky on weight, and I'd rather not order a custom Suhr if there's a chance it's going to be 8.5lbs (for example). I had to hunt down my 7.5lbs Suhr Modern; I've seen lighter ones but I'm happy with the weight.
 
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