You can’t compare a GRFR Speaker cabinet to a FRFR.I ordered one used today....How do they compare with Atomic Neo Wedge?
Why not? Enough people have compared playing through FRFR to traditional guitar speakers. This is like the halfway point.You can’t compare a GRFR Speaker cabinet to a FRFR.
Yes it’s only the half way point.Why not? Enough people have compared playing through FRFR to traditional guitar speakers. This is like the halfway point.
The Red Sound 12" LG12 is an older design than their newer FRFR products. It presents a frequency range that will be familiar to those who know a guitar amp experience with some extended range to allow a modeler to do its thing. (I've always certain other popular powered speakers using similar terms, but only learned the phrase GRFR recently).
GRFR stands for "Guitar Range Flat Response" it has a more limited response, most notably in the high end. It wouldn't be good for use as a vocal monitor or PA speaker, but for digital guitar it can sound great because the guitar mostly "lives" in the middle. In fact, if you're one of the many people who applies high and low cuts to your presets, you might not even notice. The sound should be describable as more focused. In comparison, I would expect your wedge to be described as having more presence.
I agree with the concept, but have found on some smaller stages that it’s nice to be able to use my monitors for both guitar and vocal mixes. As a purely guitar amplification system, the CLR and NX12SMA are rock solid… but I’ve found that they can be great “whole band” monitors when needed. It’s a plus, at least for me!I had a pair of LG12SE, it's a version of the historic LG12 with a lighter and a little more powerful speaker, it seems to me that chronologically it's from the same era as the ELIS 8 and the FM-10 .
To return to the concept of GRFR, I always ask myself this question. Why are we always looking for FRFR when what we need is a loudspeaker with a neutral response, let's say rather one which colors as little as possible....without however needing a bandwidth which goes up to 20khz since the guitar does not need that......I understand that historically it is the FRFR systems of the sound type which offer the most neutral response, but today with the development of digital modeling systems why do the manufacturers of Guitar amps will always look for FRFR when GRFR would be perfect.
If you can plug your modeler into them both and they both produce a sound, you can compare them. You shouldn't expect them to sound the same but you can damn sure compare them.Yes it’s only the half way point.
I know the RedSound 12 LG and the Atomic and I actually own a pair of Elis 8 and MF 10 and in my opinion it you want an honest comparison, I can only say that you can’t compare them.
Ok, maybe you can yes but it will be unfair for one of them.If you can plug your modeler into them both and they both produce a sound, you can compare them. You shouldn't expect them to sound the same but you can damn sure compare them.
Asked and answered.The LG12 does sound honky and boxy in comparison against the Atomic.
Personally I adjust with headphones, this is what seems to me to be closest to the sound coming out of a FOH at high volume. and I do the rehearsals on a FOH sometimes the same as for live so it makes the work easierOne potential downside to a limited range GRFR speaker instead of a FRFR could be issues when creating presets. If you create your presets on that speaker cab, and then use the same preset live it could end up have too much treble in FOH.
One of the reasons i went from tube amps to Fractal was having more control over my own sound live, so i want the sound i hear on stage and the sound the audience hear to be as close as possible. When i used tube amps with a mic, the sound going out would often be very different from what i heard on stage.
Of course a soundtech will do some adjustments to the mix anyway, but i think having a speaker cab that is closer in sound to the FOH speakers would be an advantage.