Any headless guitar player up in here?

rossipedia said:
The great part about life is everybody's entitled to their opinion
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It's not about opinions it's about facts and evidence . He is telling you about his experience not his opinion . If he then said "all Strandbergs are shit " that would be his opinion.:tearsofjoy:
 
Andy Eagle said:
It's not about opinions it's about facts and evidence . He is telling you about his experience not his opinion . If he then said "all Strandbergs are shit " that would be his opinion
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Definitely not saying they are shit.
Overpriced - absolutely, no doubt about that. Terribly overpriced. But not shit, they are not really worse than any other guitar - not any better also.

My opinion is simple: Strandbergs were build to solve the issue with left hand positioning and provide the means to have a guitar in the "ergonomic" position. They are quite successful in this - I'd say the body should be longer for even more proper positioning, but then the guitar wouldn't fit fly requirements. Good judgment about the compromise here.

But "built for playability" - I'd say there are facts, not opinions, suggesting otherwise. Maybe for a particular style, like hybrid picking, or djenting on low strings it's good enough.
Overall, too many things went unaccounted for to consider Strandberg a proper modern age guitar. Just a good take on mixing Steinbergs with Strats. I laughed so hard when they presented "ergo knobs" as a major improvement!
 
Andy Eagle said:
Why?
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Strandberg themselves recommend NYXL balanced tension strings for the OS7 - okay, they are balanced, but the strings feel like barbed wire by comparison to the Elixers I have used for years and years - maye I have just become overly familiar with the feel of coated strings, but the NYXLs managed to feel both sharp and rusty at the same time fresh from the packet - everyone has different views, and a lot of people seem to like them but honestly for me they are the worst feeling strings I have ever used.
 
Chromatizm said:
Definitely not saying they are shit.
Overpriced - absolutely, no doubt about that. Terribly overpriced. But not shit, they are not really worse than any other guitar - not any better also.

My opinion is simple: Strandbergs were build to solve the issue with left hand positioning and provide the means to have a guitar in the "ergonomic" position. They are quite successful in this - I'd say the body should be longer for even more proper positioning, but then the guitar wouldn't fit fly requirements. Good judgment about the compromise here.

But "built for playability" - I'd say there are facts, not opinions, suggesting otherwise. Maybe for a particular style, like hybrid picking, or djenting on low strings it's good enough.
Overall, too many things went unaccounted for to consider Strandberg a proper modern age guitar. Just a good take on mixing Steinbergs with Strats. I laughed so hard when they presented "ergo knobs" as a major improvement!
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Reality is there aren't many guitars I wouldn't consider "overpriced" - here in Australia a new American Vintage Strat will set you back between $3800 - $4300 AUD.... a Gibson Les Paul other than a Studio about $5K AUD - by comparison my Boden Prog Neck Through cost me about $4700 AUD for a very short run, very limited edition essentially flawless instrument that at least tries to be a guitar for the mid twenty first century rather than a hit or miss retread of a seventy year old design (by the way I also have a 1955 Stratocaster, so it's not like I actually hate that seventy year old design!). PRS? Expensive, but definitely much more for your bucks than Gibson or Fender..... Collings - yep, as good as it gets but here in 'Stralya an i35 will set you back an eye watering $13K AUD - not overpriced for the quality Collings are renowned for but that's what I pay for a car!

Strandberg aren't perfect - they have strange hardware issues that by now should have been solved, but they are to me a bit like the Parker Fly of the 2020s - an instrument pretty much ahead of its time trying to achieve something that current technology doesn't quite support in an economically sustainable manner.
 
David McCarroll said:
Strandberg themselves recommend NYXL balanced tension strings for the OS7 - okay, they are balanced, but the strings feel like barbed wire by comparison to the Elixers I have used for years and years - maye I have just become overly familiar with the feel of coated strings, but the NYXLs managed to feel both sharp and rusty at the same time fresh from the packet - everyone has different views, and a lot of people seem to like them but honestly for me they are the worst feeling strings I have ever used.
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I feel that way about Cobolt ernies but I like NYXLs.
 
Andy Eagle said:
It's not about opinions it's about facts and evidence . He is telling you about his experience not his opinion . If he then said "all Strandbergs are shit " that would be his opinion.:tearsofjoy:
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I mean, it sure seemed like that's what was implied by his post, which is what I was responding to. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ He posted his experience and his evidence sure... but his opinion is pretty obvious from the tone of the post.

I realize my reply may have come off as snarky, but it wasn't really intended to be. He obviously has some strong feelings about his Strandy, and that's fine. I love mine (also a Boden Metal), and I recognize that it's not perfect. None of my guitars are.
 
rossipedia said:
but his opinion is pretty obvious from the tone of the post
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The tone of my post is the reflection of my huge disappointment with so many things in this guitar. That's my bad, I probably had my hopes too high about having a perfect instrument for ("just") $2K. Maybe it not possible any more - I've bought my G&L S-500 used for about $1K (was 1300 new at that time), and quality and playability-wise it mops a floor with the Strandberg any time of the day. Just another level of literally everything.
I had to let it go because of health issues, before you ask why I'm using Strandberg then.

But my opinion is a mix of good and bad. Ergonomics - good enough. It did help preserve my health, and that's why I keep using it.
But playability - average. Quality - sucks big time. I'm sorry. I hate to be the guy who writes mean things about anything but I am so disappointed with it. I'll switch it to Aristides as soon as I can. I just can't do it right now.
 
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Chromatizm said:
The tone of my post is the reflection of my huge disappointment with so many things in this guitar. That's my bad, I probably had my hopes too high about having a perfect instrument for ("just") $2K. Maybe it not possible any more - I've bought my G&L S-500 used for about $1K (was 1300 new at that time), and quality and playability-wise it mops a floor with the Strandberg any time of the day. Just another level of literally everything.
I had to let it go because of health issues, before you ask why I'm using Strandberg then.

But my opinion is a mix of good and bad. Ergonomics - good enough. It did help preserve my health, and that's why I keep using it.
But playbility - average. Quality - sucks bit time. I'm sorry. I hate to be the guy who writes mean things about anything but I am so disappointed with it. I'll switch it to Aristides as soon as I can. I just can't do it right now.
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The Aristides is pure quality BUT it isn't light weight.
 
Maybe someone in this thread tried one... @Andy Eagle ?
I was wondering if the extra money for a strandberg Plini (not last "telly" version) is worth over a regular prog version...
 
vika12 said:
At those prices, there shouldn't be any QC issues
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I think there's a strong case to make that argument, but the reality is even $4000+ CS guitars can have quality control issues. These things happen. It's all a matter of what you're willing to accept. My Strandberg had a nut that sat a bit too high, so the open strings buzzed on the first fret. That didn't bother me because I do amateur luthier work and had no problem filing those slots down. But for somebody else, that might be a deal breaker.

The bottom line is, no matter how much $$$ you spend on a guitar, you shouldn't have to keep it if you're not happy with it.
 
rossipedia said:
I think there's a strong case to make that argument, but the reality is even $4000+ CS guitars can have quality control issues. These things happen. It's all a matter of what you're willing to accept. My Strandberg had a nut that sat a bit too high, so the open strings buzzed on the first fret. That didn't bother me because I do amateur luthier work and had no problem filing those slots down. But for somebody else, that might be a deal breaker.

The bottom line is, no matter how much $$$ you spend on a guitar, you shouldn't have to keep it if you're not happy with it.
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That's true. But, there are companies that do a consistently good QC and others that don't.
 
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